Different kind of Messianic Judaism?

The author refers to Yeshua as YAHshua.

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simchat_torah said:

Sorry, I'm jus at work right now and not a lot of free time at the moment.

shalom,
yafet

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simchat_torah said:

I have found in my travels that it is typically the Sacred Namers that push forward the weird transliterations and I tend to think this is where Yahshuah (and other variations) have come from. Sacred Namer groups will claim they have the 'secret' name of G-d and often base salvation upon knowing this secret form of his name. Its very difficult to pinpoint their exact beliefs as they vary from congregation to congregation. Because of this, we only have tell-tale signs to watch out for. They also don't usually have 'sacred name' in their title, but there are things we can use to help us distinguish between 'messianic' and 'sacred namer'.

A set of things to beware of:
1) strange made up hebrew transliterations (one way to spot them from a mile away). Often they may go as far as to base salvation on the correct Hebrew transliteration. As well, often they are quite disgusting in their lack of knowledge concerning Hebrew.
2) uses a weird or previously unheard of transliteration (usually I have found that these groups have little to no knowledge of Hebrew, but proclaim otherwise)
3) claims to have 'secret knowledge', or specifically 'secre knowledge' about a name of G-d
4) often may worship images or objects (such as a torah scroll, etc)
5) has their own translation of the bible that explicitly uses the name for G-d that they think is the only right one
6) practices that resemble jewish ones, but are weird and strange (such as women must wear a tallit, etc)
7) lean heavily towards replacement theology, and subsequently make it one of their primary doctrines.
8) basing salvation on the exact pronounciation of a particular name of G-d.
9) often come off as quite "cultish"

...and other strange practices that seem "Jewish" but don't resemble Judaism at all. For some reason, most are very pentecostal. *shrugs*

These groups will often go under the banner of 'messianic' but truly aren't anywhere near this expression of faith. Don't trust their messianic disguise... they are nothing close to messianic.


I hope these pointers... or "land marks"... will help in identifying 'sacred namer' groups.

One merley needs to do a search on google for "sacred name" or "sacred namer" and you will find a plethera of information.

Shalom,
yafet.

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justinhulsey said:

Because I'm such a great person:

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simchat_torah said:

You will often find very weird transliterations. The following is a SMALL sampling of secret 'sacred names' of G-d depending on which sacred namer group you refer to:

for YHVH:
YAHU Yaveh Yaweh Jehova Jehovah Jahova Jahovah Yahova Yahovah Yahowah Jahowa Jahowah Yahavah Jahavah Yahowe Yahoweh Jahaveh Jahaweh Yahaveh Yahaweh Jahuweh Yahuweh Jahuwah Yahuwah Yahuah Yah Jah Yahu Yahoo Yaohu Jahu Yahvah Jahvah Jahve Jahveh Yahve Yahwe Yauhu Yawhu Iahu Iahou Iahoo Iahueh

For Y'shua (or Yeshuah):
Jeshua, YahuSha, YAHU'SHUAH, Yeshuah, Yehshua, Yehshuah, Yeshouah, Y'shua, Y'shuah, Jeshu, Yeshu, Yehoshua, Yehoshuah, YHVHShua, YHVHShuah, Yhvhshua, Yhwhshua, YHWHShua, YHWHShuah, Yhvhshuah, Yhwhshuah, Yahvehshua, Yahwehshua, Yahvehshuah, Yahwehshuah, Yawhushua,Yahawshua, Jahshua, Jahshuah, Jahshuwah, Jahoshua, Jahoshuah, Jashua, Jashuah, Jehoshua, Jehoshuah, Yashua, Yashuah, Yahshua, Yahshuah, Yahushua, Yahushuah, Yahuahshua, Yahuahshuah, Yahoshua, Yahoshuah, Yaohushua, Yaohushuah, Yauhushua, Iahoshua, Iahoshuah, Iahushua, Iahushuah, YAHO-hoshu-WAH

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YatzivPatgam said:

Slightly off-topic but....


Are Danceing Matzah Boy cults closely related with sacred name groups? I shoud think so.

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