depthdeception
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Floodnut said:Where did Cain get his wife?
I'd tell you if I was ABEL!
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Floodnut said:Where did Cain get his wife?
I'd tell you if I was ABEL!
Floodnut said:Where did Cain get his wife?
I'd tell you if I was ABEL!
wisdomseeker said:I want to thank everyone for thier replys even though I am still a little confused. I am currently researching the bible right now to see if I can come up with more answers. Or perhaps it is a question I will have anwsered when my time comes. I would also like to apologise to anyone I may have offended regarding the ethic background of Adam and Eve.
The original Hebrew text and passages from the Talmud (the collection of writings constituting the Jewish civil and religious law) and from ancient Jewish commentators indicate that the Bible does not close the door on the possibility that there were other peopleincluding men before Adambut that Adam was the first human being to be created with an eternal soul.wisdomseeker said:I have some questions regarding Adam and Eve. I feel in my heart that they were not the first man and woman in the world. The bible even mentions that their son goes away and comes back with a wife. How can that be? If Adam and Eve were truly the first wouldn't that make thier son's wife his sister? Please help me with this question it has been bothering me for some time.
Sinai said:The original Hebrew text and passages from the Talmud (the collection of writings constituting the Jewish civil and religious law) and from ancient Jewish commentators indicate that the Bible does not close the door on the possibility that there were other peopleincluding men before Adambut that Adam was the first human being to be created with an eternal soul.
Hebrew has two words for soul, nefesh and neshama, and both come into play in the first two chapters of Genesis. When Genesis 1:21 tells us that God created every animal, it signifies that all animals (humans included) are infused with the nefesh or soul of animal life. When humans are mentioned a few verses later (Genesis 1:27 and 2:7), the text tells of a further creation, which distinguishes humans from lower animals: The third creation mentioned in the first chapter of Genesis is of our eternal and immortal soul, our neshama (the first two creations were of the universe and of life).
The closing of Genesis 2:7 has a subtlety lost in the English. It is usually translated as: and [God] breathed into his nostrils the neshama of life and the adam became a living soul (Gen. 2:7). The Hebrew text actually states: and the adam became to a living soul.
Rabbi Moses ben Nahman (generally referred to as Nahmanides) lived from 1194 to 1270 A.D. or C.E.well before modern scientific discoveries that indicate that man may have been on our planet substantially longer than just a few thousand years. Nahmanides wrote that the to (the Hebrew letter lamed prefixed to the word soul in the verse) is superfluous from a grammatical stance and so must be there to teach something. Lamed, he noted, indicates a change in form and may have been placed there to describe mankind as progressing through stages of mineral, plant, fish, and animal. Finally, upon receiving the neshama, that creature which had already been formed became a complete human. He concludes his extensive commentary on the implications of this lamed by noting that it may be that the verse is stating that [prior to receiving the neshama] it was a completely living being and [by the neshama] it was transformed into another man.
In other words, prior to Gods creation of the neshama for man, there may have been something like a man that was not quite a human in that it lacked the neshama or eternal soul.
Note that Nahmanides writings preceded discoveries of modern paleontology by hundreds of years---and the Bible said it three thousand years before discoveries of modern science.