Where and how did food and water come from

and this looks like it could be real. you can't simply make an assumption and say it's true, you should look up facts. read up on evolution and how the human body came to be.

curquest said:

so the brain programmed itself to think just by itself?

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No. A mutation that allows improved neural function gave its host organism an advantage. This advantage led to the organism breeding more, and passing on the gene.

Repeat over millions of generations and Voila! A brain from a clump of cells.

By looking at the fossil record.

Is it me, or are the ID arguments getting more and more desperate?

It's more the brain size that is looked at in fossils.

curquest said:

How was water formed? and how did the body survive without a fully devoloped body to consume and water?

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Life didn't form until after there was water.

you need everything in place fully established for something to work.

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That's the mistake. You don't. Humans have eyes and a brain to interpret the image. There is a jellyfish with quite well-developed eyes and no brain.

how does the body know to fit a food supply when i think in the evolution view that all the parts of the human didn't evolve at once? one cant work without the other right? What human organs evolved first?

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You are going back way before humans were humans. By the time mammals evolved, all the organs were in place. By the time there were fish most of the organs were in place (except lungs).

It looks from coelentrates that the digestive system evolved first. And it was only a hollow tube thru which sea water flowed so that the cells lining the tube could grab bacteria and organic molecules out of the water. No mouth. No anus. Just a tube.

The next was the ciculatory system. And it started out as hollow tubes in the animal thru which liquid flowed to bring nutrients to cells and take away waste. The first heart was simply a wider place in the tubing that contracted. I'll have to look up the specific species today that has a circulatory system like that.

It was later that gills evolved. And, of course, still later that lungs evolved.

curquest said:

how do fossils explain how a brain was/is wired and how it became able to think? Please dont hate my curiousty.

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Since fossils don't preserve the soft tissue, what is looked at most, as Phantom said, is brain size. A. afranrensis had a brain size of 450 cubic centimeters (cc). H. habilis is 750 cc. H. erectus is 800-1100 cc. and H. sapiens is 1200-1500 cc.

To determine brain wiring we study living species.

curquest said:

how do we know this if evolution says it happened millions and millions of years ago?

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Because the events left evidence that persists to the present. The oldest fossils are 3.8 billion years old. They are in sedimentary rock. In order to have sedimentary rock you have to have erosion of other rock and the way you get erosion is by water. Rocks that form from blowing dust have characteristics that show that. For instance, look at the Coconino sandstones. They were formed from sand deposited by wind erosion.

So, there was water present.

a human live without lungs or without a heart if they didnt take evolve together or any other body part.

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As I said, the organs were in place in our remote ancestors. For instance, we evolved from mammals. Mammals have all the organ systems we have. Mammals evolved from reptiles and that is one of the best transitional species sequences there is. Reptiles have the organs. They didn't have the ears, but we can see that evolve step by step in the transitional species.

how does the jellyfish move around then without a brain? arent brains what make u able to move?

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Paramecium and amoeba move. They are single-celled and don't have a brain. Movement involves changes in proteins inside cells. For muscle cells it's the contraction of proteins inside those cells. You don't need a brain to tell muscle cells to contract. All you need do is trigger the chemical reactions inside those cells. An outside stimulus that is not a brain will do it.

In fact, in humans, our reflexes don't depend on our brain. Tap your knee with that rubber hammer doctors use and your leg moves without any part of your brain being involved.

can u show me evidence for this, sounds interesting



when did this take place? how was it observed?

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A lot of evolution is deduced by studying living organisms and then looking for their relatives in the fossil record. You see, it is possible for a species to earn quite a good living without being as complex as a human. So organisms that got to these partial stages were able to stay there because that way of earning a living is still around.

We have indications that worms existed over 1 billion years ago. Worms have digestive systems. We have many fossils from 600 million years ago -- the Eidacarian fossils -- that show some soft tissue detail including digestive tracts and the beginnings of the circulatory system.

curquest, curquest, curquest...

You have shown that you have absolutely no knowledge of evolution. I think it's stupid to try to explain how evolution works to every wandering creationist that has no idea, so I will direct you to the following link. It's not terribly long, nor is it that complicated, and it explains what evolution is as well as what it isn't.

http://www.ebonmusings.org/evolution/whatevoisnt.html

After you've done your reading, then you can come back and debate.

curquest said:

well when I look at myself it looks designed

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You are designed. Designed by natural selection. This is the problem with ID. It always assumes that when you say "designed", you also mean the prepositional phrase "by an intelligent entity". That is, that organisms are manufactured by an intelligent entity.

One reason Darwin's idea triumphed is that he discovered an unintelligent process that gives design -- natural selection. Follow the steps and design is inevitable. Humans now use natural selection when the design problem is too tough for them and they don't know how to design what they want. Natural selection will do it when humans can't.

curquest said:

and how did the food and water know that animals and humans would have mouths teeth, tongues, throats, stomachs, digestive tracts, penis's, and butts to take in and remove the waste.

how does evolution do this all without a God involved?

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Lactose tolerance is interesting thing to learn about. Seems the cultures who consume dairy products have aquired a mutation that allows them to do so. After the baby years, people are naturaly intolerant to lactose, until evolution , now many of us can drink milk without vomiting...correct me if I am wrong, I read this about 5 years ago.