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Recent content by walter45

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    Kirk Cameron Takes Heat for His Annihilationist View on Hell

    I cannot fully explain this subject maybe someone else can? "Destroy both soul and body in hell" - Matthew 10:28 "Will disappear nowhere to be found" - Psalm 37:10, 37:35-36; Isaiah 41:12 "Eternal Destruction" - 2 Thessalonians 1:9 "the wicked will be cut off from the earth" - Proverbs 2:22...
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    Kirk Cameron Takes Heat for His Annihilationist View on Hell

    If anyone has any advice please let me know, this seems like a reasonable conclusion to me, what is your advice please? :sparklingheart: Would you consider it wrong of me if I considered these words 100% Accurate? "Destroy both soul and body in hell" - Matthew 10:28 "Will disappear nowhere to...
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    Which Bible version is the best translation?

    You might check this one out, it reflects a translation of the earliest Greek lxx manuscripts, the Septuagint, and it has many study notes. https://2001translation.org/
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    Which Bible version is the best translation?

    Thank you for sharing some of your experiences, I think each Bible translator has a different perspective of what they believe to be true, and that is reflected in their own translation. In my research I have noticed a difference, before Jesus walked on the Earth, all the Hebrew, Aramaic or...
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    What makes Evolution a theory?

    I respect what others believe to be true :), I think it makes sense that someone designed all these complex systems and keeps them running everyday, is it possible that any human could design and build any of these systems, with their limited intelligence? :sparklingheart: What would happen to...
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    Kirk Cameron Takes Heat for His Annihilationist View on Hell

    If we consider the words in each scripture, as equally valuable to our understanding, could it be possible that some of the words are figurative? And other words are not figurative? Eternal Torment - Revelation 14:11, 20:10; Matthew 25:46 Will not see life - John 3:36, Matthew 7:14 Destroy both...
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    Kirk Cameron Takes Heat for His Annihilationist View on Hell

    Yes that is true / but never alive!
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    Kirk Cameron Takes Heat for His Annihilationist View on Hell

    Does the bible explain that people that are destroyed are also alive somehow? I could not find any scriptures. If the Bible never explains that being destroyed also means being alive, I don't even consider it !!
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    Refuting Losing Salvation!

    No matter what we want to call it, shouldn't we include all these scriptures in our understanding? Ephesians 2:8-10 Contemporary English Version You were saved by faith in God, who treats us much better than we deserve. This is God's gift to you, and not anything you have done on your own. 9 It...
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    Kirk Cameron Takes Heat for His Annihilationist View on Hell

    Good points, I will put together some scriptures to make an attempt to allow the scriptures to speak for themselves, without me adding any explanations of my own. *scripture interpreting scripture. Could you please put some scriptures together that fully explain your different ideas about the...
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    Kirk Cameron Takes Heat for His Annihilationist View on Hell

    Still Jesus says the soul and the body are destroyed in hell, and some "will not see life" John 3:36 Where in the scriptures does it explain death equals life or that being destroyed equals life?
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    Kirk Cameron Takes Heat for His Annihilationist View on Hell

    I agree with most people's line of reasoning :sparklingheart: I think this is probably one of the hardest subject to prove, because: #1. When one person believes that the wicked are destroyed and they don't get life in the first place, they vanish and disappear, this agrees with the Bible...
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    Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

    What's more important, something You or I explain, or something Jesus and the Apostles explain? Isn't Jesus words Paramount? - If you could please state your belief. - Then list the scriptures that explain it. Focusing on the "context in scripture", not so much our Viewpoints or Explanations...
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    Is John 3:3 SALVATION. ?

    In the Bible words alone is much better, then anything I could explain. Ephesians 2:8-9, Titus 2:11 Hebrews 5:9 Mark 13:13 John 3:5 John 3:16 Matthew 28:20 and 1 John 2:3-6 2 Thessalonians 1:8 If anyone has another scripture that is related to salvation or everlasting life please let me know...