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    The Apparent Contradiction Between a Loving God and Eternal Punishment

    Then it's not a gift, it's a reward. Would you tell your children that they're only going to get birthday presents if they do well in school? In fact just how many times have you given a present to someone with rules attached? I received a very nice gift in the last couple of days and I neither...
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    The Apparent Contradiction Between a Loving God and Eternal Punishment

    To say a gift is 'earned' is self contradictory. By definition it ceases to become a gift and instead is an award/reward for actions. If receiving a car is implicit upon achievement in some area then it's not a gift. Receiving birthday presents on the other hand are gifts because no action is...
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    The Problem of Hell

    One can only hope that that was supposed to be an attempt at irony....
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    The Apparent Contradiction Between a Loving God and Eternal Punishment

    Just to address the last couple of points of your post for the time being (It's late in the UK) I don't believe in the lack of free will due solely to any 'religious' ideal. There are too many other factors in life that infringe upon complete or absolute freedom of choice IMO. A bit simplistic...
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    Universalism

    Tim, I don't use words that insult. I don't flame and I don't report. I will be debating passionately and I will give no leeway if I see a flaw in your position. But that is not personal towards you. You have to see the difference if there is any point to this. I bear no ill will towards you or...
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    Universalism

    Tim, as you already know by now I've neither flamed you or reported you both in public and private. I hope you can accept that. If you are still responding then I'll answer your post. I don't believe any corrective measures would involve torture, so your point is moot in that regard. I do...
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    The Apparent Contradiction Between a Loving God and Eternal Punishment

    What 'dozens and dozens' of passages? You are being incredibly vague. Show these verses that implicitly state that whenever God speaks of reconciling all things, being the saviour of all, loving the world, being saviour of all, desiring and willing that all be safe, etc cannot mean what they...
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    The Apparent Contradiction Between a Loving God and Eternal Punishment

    Er, on what authority can you say that there is only the one passage that 'indicates' that all means everyone? If this is the verse you have chosen to 'indicate' this then in itself it refutes calvinism! This is a popular verse to support universalism! Saying that others have to be...
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    The Apparent Contradiction Between a Loving God and Eternal Punishment

    I can't say I see anything in Romans 7 that lends itself towards calvinism, feel free to share what I may be missing :) Romans 9 would appear more relevant, however there again I don't see this as interpreting that only those who God chooses to show mercy or compassion towards results in those...
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    The Apparent Contradiction Between a Loving God and Eternal Punishment

    No you haven't. All you've effectively done is point out that every time the word 'all' or 'world' is used it doesn't neccasarily mean in a literal sense. No disagreement there. But there isn't any subtext in the verses provided where you could make out that the authors were using hyperbole so...
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    The Apparent Contradiction Between a Loving God and Eternal Punishment

    I'm aware that every time the bible uses the word 'all' it isn't necassarily literal as you (or Spurgeon) describe. But in regards as to who the sacrifice was for it is repeatedly for all and the world. It's a heck of a tentative position to hold that Jesus only died for a set group...
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    The Apparent Contradiction Between a Loving God and Eternal Punishment

    This is such a non response. The verses plainly say that Jesus died for ALL people. The world. Time and again! Surely you can explain why all these verses that counter calvinism don't really mean 'all' or the 'world' otherwise what is the point in attempting to debate this issue?
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    The Apparent Contradiction Between a Loving God and Eternal Punishment

    I fail to see how these verses state that Jesus' sacrifice only covered a predestined elect and not the whole of mankind. Essentially this is the essence of calvinism and deeply flawed. The bible doesn't seem to correspond with that at all: John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth...
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    Universalism

    It's a last resort for me, and I've never done it in terms of debate no matter how heated it gets from a personal perspective. The post I reported had zero to do with any personal disagreement but was just an unutterably vile and gleeful description of women suffering and asking for it.... I've...
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    Universalism

    Tim, just for the record I've not reported you or anyone else on this thread. I've not reported you at all for your information. I have reported another poster on here but it had zero to do with any contention regarding theology but rather for sickening mysoginy of which I'm sure we'd have been...