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    Thessalonians 4 Does Not Teach a Rapture Separate from the Second Coming

    Not only that but the Olivet Discourse is based on a combination of Dan 7 and Dan 9. In Dan 7 the Son of Man comes with the clouds to destroy the Man of Sin and to set up God's Kingdom on the earth. That is pretty clearly Postrib. Dan 9 talks about the destruction of the "city and the...
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    If God can replace Israel, He can replace the Church, too

    We see thru a glass darkly. We need to pray and study, and to recognize when something seems revealed and consistent with the totality of the Scriptures and Christian experience. It is *context* that determines if something is to be taken "allegorically" or "symbolically." If that doesn't...
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    If God can replace Israel, He can replace the Church, too

    No, it was the person who I was talking to that indicated all of Revelation is "allegorical." I agreed with Clare that the book overall is "Prophetic" in genre, and "Apocalyptic" in form. The book is literally filled with symbolism. But she uses that to claim that the Millennium is to be taken...
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    Thessalonians 4 Does Not Teach a Rapture Separate from the Second Coming

    There is a big difference between saying the Lord is "near" and saying the Lord can come "at any time," or "on any day." Can you find early Christian statements that teach that the Lord can come "on any day" or "at any time?" It is not a problem so much of inconsistency of doctrine but a matter...
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    Thessalonians 4 Does Not Teach a Rapture Separate from the Second Coming

    Yes, I've been annoyed by the Pretrib Rapture of Dispensationalism for a long time. I found your post interesting in mentioning that early on 1 Thes 4 was not the basis of its proof. Today, you hear Dispensationalists claim it's "obvious" in 1 Thes 4 that it is proving a Pretrib Rapture...
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    If God can replace Israel, He can replace the Church, too

    Yes, one should seriously consider if the prophecy is to be taken literally, before assigning it to "allegory." While it's true you don't see the number "1000" given for a future Kingdom, you do see a lot of references to a final state of Israel in God's good standing. The number "1000" may be...
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    Prosperity

    Just a few passages would've sufficed to make the point, but it's okay. I agree--believing in God to meet your needs, and sometimes your wants, is entirely biblical. We are not to be anxious, when we are living for the Lord, knowing He will care for us. However, you are suggesting that...
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    If God can replace Israel, He can replace the Church, too

    No, the discussion is senseless because you seem to be arbitrarily assigning certain Scriptures to "literal" or "allegorical." These things are not determined by categories like Prophecy, History, Poetry, etc. Rather, you will find in any of the biblical categories of literature use of both...
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    If God can replace Israel, He can replace the Church, too

    Seems like a senseless discussion to me.
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    If God can replace Israel, He can replace the Church, too

    "Didactic" indicates there is systematic teaching which often has moral persuasion to it. The poetry and wisdom books of the OT Bible are considered "didactic." None of this means the poetry and wisdom books of the Bible are the exclusive source of systematic teaching in the OT Scriptures. The...
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    If God can replace Israel, He can replace the Church, too

    I think Amillennialists would normally recognize the "Millennium" and the Book of Revelation as "apostolic teaching?" As I said before, John was an apostle. And the fact it is of the apocalyptic genre does not discount its authority or its "teaching" value. It is just somewhat difficult to...
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    If God can replace Israel, He can replace the Church, too

    School of thought can involve meaning of text or nature of text. I think we've drifted far from the original concern. Premillennial thought vs Amillennial thought has a long history within the believing Church. It doesn't have to involve disbelief in the authority of Scriptures. I think there...
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    Prosperity

    Gotya. Sounds pretty silly, if false stories are being passed on in the name of this actor. Don't know who's doing it though? I'm abandoning this thread.
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    If God can replace Israel, He can replace the Church, too

    So, now we've come full circle. I said you could have your school and I can have mine. But you denied you have a school of thought on this, whereas the "figurative view" is very much a "school of thought." Why don't you just "smoke the peace pipe" and embrace our differences? ;) Both the...
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    If God can replace Israel, He can replace the Church, too

    I shared your previous post with my brother, and he suggested the same thing--why is your argument even relevant? This is what he said: "Your reply seems to point out that if Clare 73 tagged something you wrote as a "dark saying" or a "riddle", she needs to explain how that is relevant. The...
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