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Recent content by OLDGUY

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    Tithing and budgeted giving.

    I will try this one more time and then I am leaving this thread. The tithing argument is a round robin argument. The church eschews money and then asks for it. Money is not of the kingdom of God. Yet if the church wants you to tithe what does that tell you about the fruit that church is bearing...
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    Seperation of church and state.

    Seems we are all pretty much in agreement. So here is the real question. Why have we allowed so much of our God to be removed from our government?
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    Tithing and budgeted giving.

    I truly am sorry. But I call ambition what it is. I call the Holy Spirit what it is and I do not mix the two. My point is that I really care that you understand. I hope I truly hope that you will take the time to think about this: Right now - for the last two days - I have been trying to hire a...
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    Tithing and budgeted giving.

    dies-l I respect your opinion. But please remember that God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit are the foundation. The church is just a way to bring people to that foundation. Please reread the letters to the seven churches in Revelations. You cannot serve God an mammon. You cannot serve ttwo masters...
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    Tithing and budgeted giving.

    Here is my problem. Jesus was consistent is His teachings about things of this world. These things such as money do not really have a place, need, or purpose in heaven. Money being one of these things comes into a tricky spot. The church which is supposed to promote a pathway to God and which is...
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    Tithing and budgeted giving.

    I do give money. All I really was asking was as per my example, does that count toward tithing? Or would it be consider the same? Cause the way I do it is preferable to me.
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    Tithing and budgeted giving.

    My problem is that I see both sides of this argument way to well. It is not that I mind giving of what I have. My family does that. I just have a problem becuase my understanding is that Jesus told the disciples to not take anything for payment. God would provide for them. (I know I am...
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    Would you put on the Persinger - helmet?

    If you mean would I put it on for me? No. I am already saved and love God. Would I put it on to help convert others? Yes. Do I think that it actually has anything to do with slavation and loving God or being closer to him? No. Hope this helps. Could not just answer yes or no to your question the...
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    Tithing and budgeted giving.

    I have often been torn between this too!! I am torn between you should not ask for money God will provide and are donations the provisions that God is speaking of.
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    Seperation of church and state.

    Good point. Thank you.
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    Seperation of church and state.

    Happy to. Seperation of church and state is not seperation of God or religion and state. From a biblical stand point start at Exodus 20 and read forward. Look at the laws that God is giving to Moses. Now look at our civil and criminal laws. Seem familiar? From The Decleration of Independence...
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    Seperation of church and state.

    I know this is a little on the edge of these forums, but I just read something and it made me think. From a scripture stand point a lot of you are very versed in defending God. Yet we live in the earthly world. How many of you agree or even know that the seperation of church and state has...
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    Genesis 1-3

    I really like your post!!!! I am an engineer and I assure you that most of the scientific facts that we have been given are simply a load of garbage. Have you heard the recent nothingness theory on how the universe was created? Stephen Hawking is saying that the universe was created out of...
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    Are These Mystic Practices OK?

    dies-l Thank you for reminding me that I am often too blunt in what I say. Mont - Please accept my apologies if I have seemed argumentative.
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    Prayer request

    May God's will be done. May His will be that she is made whole. I will continue to pray.
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