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    Universal Reconciliation

    Unable to Know The story of salvation has been related in many different fashions. Whether its being saved from a burning building or having a glorious gift being presented that all we need to do is grab hold of it. These stories have one unscriptural theme at the root. It assumes that the...
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    Good News: Hell is not forever!

    Unconditional... I like that name! The Bible is full of Gods redeeming power, and His power is not lessened by any created evil. God is the creator of all things, He will see all things restored to Him! There is nothing less that a soveriegn God could accept.
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    What hell is like.

    :bow: o.k the post from the jewish encyclopedia says that gehenna is where the fire is. That is true. I did notice many references to non biblical sources, unless anyone includes the apocrypha as biblical. For the most part it refers to gehenna as place of burning. This is true. Mr. Dawsons...
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    What hell is like.

    :bow: Hey Der Alter, just wanted to take the time now to apologize for my last post. I shouldn't have lashed out as I did, and I'm sorry. I do beleive that I have addressed your posts from the Jewish encylopedia, when I responded that I didn't see where anyone was burned in hades, sheol. I...
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    What hell is like.

    For anyone else, :bow: Gehenna is the word used by our Lord Jesus as He taught here on earth. What did the Jews of His time understand His teaching on hell to be? http://www.gospelthemes.com/hell.htm In this paper Samuel G. Dawson asserts that hell was an event to occur to the Israel...
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    What hell is like.

    [/size][/font] Abraham went to Heaven then, as the parable of the rich man and lazarus states. Where does it say in the Bible that Abraham ascended to heaven (not of his own effort)? You address one verse, then make some comments towards my views (without scripture) and leave it at that...
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    What hell is like.

    :bow: Now it also does not make sense that anyone should be enjoying heaven or suffering hell before the day of Judgment. Now I have not heard an orthodox Christian explain this to me so I would enjoy your thoughts on this Der Alter. Mat 10:15 and Mat 12:41 both indicate a future day of...
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    What hell is like.

    :bow: I would like to discuss this in a truthful manner. Now here's how I understand your response. I post this: [/font][/color] What I was trying to illustrate is this: no one should be in heaven before Our Lord was to get there. Jesus was to be the first, as Paul states in 1 Cor...
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    What hell is like.

    I agree they are most assuredly understood by both God, Jesus and the rest of those who have ears to hear. So then the words of Jesus must of had some meaning when He said that "No man ascendeth up to heaven, except He who descendth from heaven". Or that Christ is the firstfruit, the first to...
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    What hell is like.

    :bow: [/b][/size][/font] I have addressed your scripture, Luke 23:43, in fact I addressed it before you did. It does not make sense to use the verse in question as further proof for that verse. Do you know what I mean? Hey, maybe that comma is supposed to be there, and if it is, we...
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    What hell is like.

    :bow: Perhaps you could provide a scripture other than the one in question for proof of Jesus being in paradise that day with the theif. Which would be 3 days before His ressurection.(Matt. 12:40) And about 43 days before His ascention to Heaven. Also, you haven't addressed your comments...
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    What hell is like.

    :bow: Then you can show me that Jesus was in Paradise before He was ressurected? On that day that He spoke those words to the thief? Any scriptures provided would be appreciated. [/size][/font] I was essentially asking you if I had your position correct, I simply forgot the question mark at...
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    What hell is like.

    :bow: I agree, the comma is most certainly misplaced. The origional manuscripts were not inspired with punctuation marks. Christ did not go to paradise on the day of His crucifixion: Christ was in the heart of the earth for three days following His crucifixion. (Matt. 12:40) After three...
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    What hell is like.

    :bow: After reading your links I was not able to locate where it said that sheol was where people burned. Let me understand, God used words and sayings that have no meaning, and Jesus twice spoke of things that were not true. When He said "NO MAN has ascended up to heaven, but he that...
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    What hell is like.

    :bow: These two verses are not completely clear to mean something other than grave. Sheol is a curious word, in that it has been translated to mean three different words. Hell, Grave, and Pit. Now which one is to be it's true meaning? There are 61 other verses in the Old Testament that have...
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