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    Advice on alternative to Daily Office

    The 1979 BCP versions of the MP and EP have a lot of options -- you can skip anything that says "may" (which is at least half of the prayers). Also the BCP isn't some binding contract; you can ignore the lectionary, or just choose one reading, or choose your own short reading. Same thing with...
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    Advice on alternative to Daily Office

    If you want to try the Catholic Liturgy of the Hours, a great site (which has an iTunes podcast) is: Divine Office - Liturgy of the Hours - Breviary - Free Audio - Bible - Prayer It has full audio for all the offices with multiple people doing the prayers so that you get the actual...
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    A journey to liberal Christianity

    Hi all, I'm interested in hearing stories of people who moved into liberal Christianity, and especially why they are Christian rather than agnostic or some other religion. I participated in this forum around 10 years ago as a Catholic; at that time in my life I tried to be as orthodox a...
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    1979 Book of Common Prayer

    On the other hand, you have to be careful in putting too much of a correlation with liturgy changes and falling church attendance. I think in general factors like "I don't believe in God" or "I don't think homosexuality is a sin" are going to be much more important than "The 1979 Book of Common...
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    1979 Book of Common Prayer

    On the other hand, he saw divisions even in his own time. “Master,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us.” “Do not stop him,” Jesus said, “for whoever is not against you is for you.” I just can't imagine the Jesus of...
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    Audio Daily Office?

    Are there any good audio daily office podcasts or sites? I know some good ones for the Catholic Liturgy of the Hours (particularly divineoffice.org) but nothing like that for the Episcopal office.
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    Which Bible Translations are used in the Anglican Church?

    Bishop's is the most likely -- it will be similar to KJV because both translations were mostly based on Tyndale. (Geneva is possible too)
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    "Tribal" psalms

    I've always had difficulty with that "plan of salvation" explanation because it seems too abstractly philosophical and ignores the fact that you're talking about real people who were slaughtered, including women and children in some cases. Given that I'm in East Asian Studies, I also wonder how...
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    "Tribal" psalms

    Both the Episcopal Daily Office and the Catholic Liturgy of the Hours make heavy use of the Psalms, but I have a hard time praying some of them because they seem more suited to an ancient-world tribal God than the Christian God. Psalm 136 is a good example, with a structure that has many verses...
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    Sins and confession

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    Lets talk about a young earth

    Not very high. This doesn't bother non-religious scientists much because with the age of the universe and the huge number of planets that exist in the universe, the chance doesn't have to be very high for it to have occurred once. (It doesn't bother religious scientists either since the...
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    Lets talk about a young earth

    Responding to Rising_Suns again, the problem with your disagreement is that it's not based on any sort of facts -- it's just a hypothetical possibility. You have no proof that the laws are not constant, and scientists *do* have proof that the laws are constant throughout time. If you say...
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    Lets talk about a young earth

    If the old earth "theory" was that easy to defeat, it would have been discarded long ago. I don't have the scientific knowledge to argue specifics, but you can't hope to defeat a scientific principle that has been refined and tested for decades with a few sentences of logical thinking. It's...
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    Mass using a classical musical Mass setting -- valid?

    Would it be possible to construct a valid Mass around one of the classical Mass settings (i.e. Bach's "Mass in B Minor" or Beethoven's "Missa Solemnis")? Obviously the settings are usually too lengthy to do this on a regular basis, but I think it would be quite an experience to have a real Mass...