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Recent content by Jeff Saunders

  1. Jeff Saunders

    Call upon the Name of the Lord and you shall be Saved.

    How is saying that " The whole system of tribal descent from Jacob, has vanished from humanity" any different from Rom 11:2-5 Elijah thinks he is the only one left yet the Father said I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed to Baal. Can the Father not reserve for Himself...
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    Call upon the Name of the Lord and you shall be Saved.

    Rev 7:4-8 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed; 144000 from all the tribes of Israel From the tribe of Judah 12000 .... There is no mention of any Gentiles at all. It seems to me your digging your hole deeper with this one. Rev 7:9 After this I looked and there before me was a great...
  3. Jeff Saunders

    Call upon the Name of the Lord and you shall be Saved.

    Are you saying that no one can convert to Christianity because of Rev 13:8 ? Are you not assuming that only those who have not been written in the book of life are on the earth at that time, thats reading into the text, there could be millions who are written in the book, we don't know. Do you...
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    Call upon the Name of the Lord and you shall be Saved.

    In your system of looking at things what do you believe about 1Thes 4:17 and those who are Harpazo,[ raptured] which means to be caught up or snatched away?
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    Call upon the Name of the Lord and you shall be Saved.

    1 Cor 15:51-53" In an instant, in a glance of an eye, at the final trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. For the perishable thing must clothe itself in imperishability. and this mortal thing must clothe itself in immortality" If...
  6. Jeff Saunders

    Call upon the Name of the Lord and you shall be Saved.

    I or anyone who I have ever heard has never said there will be no Christians in the Tribulation, there will be many Christians in the Tribulation but what makes you think that they are the same ones that are here before the Tribulation other than your interpretation of Scripture. The verses...
  7. Jeff Saunders

    Call upon the Name of the Lord and you shall be Saved.

    If there is no Rapture of the Church, who goes into the Millennium? From what I read in Scripture when Jesus returns all those who are part of the Church are glorified and the non believers are swept away, they are the tares, then who is left to go into the Millennium for Jesus to rule over? The...
  8. Jeff Saunders

    2Timothy 2:10-13

    Back in the 70s I took a lifeguard course and we were taught how to save someone who did not want our help, sometimes when people are not thinking correctly they will fight the very person that was trying to save them. We were trained to save them even if it was a risk to ourselves, if a man who...
  9. Jeff Saunders

    Call upon the Name of the Lord and you shall be Saved.

    The concept of the **rapture**—believers being "caught up" to meet the Lord in the air, based on 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17—appears in early Christian writings, but the modern understanding (especially the **pre-tribulation rapture**, where the church is removed before a distinct seven-year...
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    Call upon the Name of the Lord and you shall be Saved.

    If you can answer my questions why don't you? I know that I am not the best at english paragraph stuff and my thoughts do go all over the place, its like trying to put 5 gallons of water into a cup, but don't let my lack of english writing style keep you from an answer, you must of understood...
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    Call upon the Name of the Lord and you shall be Saved.

    That's ok, I am used to this kind of response, I like to ask the tough questions that people do not feel like answering, you can't answer it with sunday school answers. Why do you think I am a skeptic ? I am asking hard questions that many do not want to answer, I am just challenging your view...
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    2Timothy 2:10-13

    No Isaiah is correct. Phil 2:10-11 " every knee should bow of those in heaven,and those on earth, and those under the earth, and every tongue will gladly confess that Jesus is Lord" the Greek word for confess is Exomologeo its definition is to acknowledge, openly and joyfully, to celebrate, to...
  13. Jeff Saunders

    2Timothy 2:10-13

    So mans will trumps Gods will? That does not sound like the God of Scripture. Psalm 86:9 " All nations whom God has made will come and worship before Him" Is 46:11 " Indeed, I have spoken, indeed I shall bring it to pass! I have formed the plan indeed. I shall do it." Jer 32:27 " I am Yahweh...
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    2Timothy 2:10-13

    I see things differently, 2 Tim 2:12&13 they are the key-" If we endure, we shall also reign with him. If we deny Him, He also will deny us. If we are faithless, He remains faithful, He can't deny Himself." The idea is that the offer that we are given is will we reign with Jesus and be sons and...