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  1. Jeff Saunders

    why ECT became the dominant view in the west

    It is not a unsupported accusation it’s truth. I will show you an example of what I am saying ( it’s not something that you have not heard before) God is love , he is not a God who loves , love is his essence his character and God can’t do anything that is not out of love . You believe that God...
  2. Jeff Saunders

    why ECT became the dominant view in the west

    Evil is not a thing that can be redeemed in the first place. Evil is like darkness it is the opposite of light . Evil is anything that is not of God , God is light evil is darkness.
  3. Jeff Saunders

    why ECT became the dominant view in the west

    That is not a personal attack it’s speaking truth, sometimes the truth hurts but that is not a attack. We are called to speak truth.
  4. Jeff Saunders

    Learn why universalism is popular, but fatally flawed

    why do you believe that the worms and fire are literal in Matt but in Psalm 22 God says of Jesus that he was a worm but I will bet you don't think Jesus was a worm?
  5. Jeff Saunders

    Learn why universalism is popular, but fatally flawed

    ok did some research about valley of Hinnom and you are correct that it was not a city dump, it was much worse it was a place that some Jews sacrificed their children to the pagan god tophat . but it is still just a physical place that had a very bad connotation and we could visit it today, its...
  6. Jeff Saunders

    Who wouldn’t want to be a universalist? (and why I’m not)

    you really do not understand biblical universal redemption at all, I don't understand why so many people speak about what they have no knowledge about . biblical universal redemption is not the same as universalism the two are not compatible.
  7. Jeff Saunders

    The Incoherencies of Hard Universalism

    Let me ask you something, is sin more powerful than God? does God hate sin ?
  8. Jeff Saunders

    Towards a biblical view of universalism

    then why does this verse say it? do you not believe that it is translated correctly ?
  9. Jeff Saunders

    Learn why universalism is popular, but fatally flawed

    Then what’s your definition of when Jesus says “ Hinnom’s Vale of fire”
  10. Jeff Saunders

    Learn why universalism is popular, but fatally flawed

    I figured you would say that , is there anything you won’t do to stay in your man made box? But I wrote that for the people who are honestly searching out who God is and maybe they have been feed some things that are not true. Not everyone knows God so well that no one can teach them anything...
  11. Jeff Saunders

    Learn why universalism is popular, but fatally flawed

    the reason you look at what the early church fathers said is because they were from the culture and language that the new testament was written to and they give us insight to how it was received by them and how they understand what the authors of the New Testament were saying. We read a English...
  12. Jeff Saunders

    Learn why universalism is popular, but fatally flawed

    Augustine- " There are very many in our day, who though not denying the Holy Scriptures, do not believe in endless torments" St. Jerome 331-420 " In the end and consummation of the Universe all are to be restored into their original harmonious state, and we all...
  13. Jeff Saunders

    Towards a biblical view of universalism

    you see that verse as an offer I see it as a proclamation. Rom 11:32 " For God has committed them all to disobedience, that he might have mercy on all" 1 Cor 15:22 "For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive" 2 Pet3:9 " The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some...
  14. Jeff Saunders

    Calvinism, Arminianism, or Universal Restoration

    Don't forget John 13:3 and Luke 10:22 The Father has given all things into Jesus hands / and Heb 1:2 Jesus is heir of all things
  15. Jeff Saunders

    Learn why universalism is popular, but fatally flawed

    you need to read the writings of many of the early church fathers many believed that the word translated as eternal in the English and Latin translations should read of the age or pertaining to the age , it has an end it is not eternal ,
  16. Jeff Saunders

    Towards a biblical view of universalism

    you know that I go by the early church definition of aion not your latter translation of eternal
  17. Jeff Saunders

    Towards a biblical view of universalism

    2 Cor 4:4 the God of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers /Eph 3:9 mystery which for ages past was kept hidden /Gal 1:4 Jesus gave himself to rescue us from the present evil age /1 Cor 1:20 Where is the scribe? Where is the philosopher of this age / Heb 6:5 tasted the goodness of the...
  18. Jeff Saunders

    Towards a biblical view of universalism

    You have to add to scripture for it to say that Jesus was a universal offer of salvation, when scripture is very clear in more than one place that Jesus is the savior of the world. what he did offer was do you want to be part of his kingdom and rule and rein with Jesus on his throne or do you...
  19. Jeff Saunders

    Towards a biblical view of universalism

    I will not go over this again we have done it many times , if you don't understand how God works through ages then this can go no further.
  20. Jeff Saunders

    Towards a biblical view of universalism

    so mans will is greater than Gods