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Recent content by fhansen

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    The law, the commandments, and Christians.

    Fine, truth doesn't seem to be a priorty for you anyway.
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    The law, the commandments, and Christians.

    Nonsense. Aside from avoiding plenty of specific points I made, for some reason you accept the contemporary new testament canon even tho it still wasn't universally accepted in the16th century. And it's been clearly demonstrated that the Catholic Church for its part continously used the same 73...
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    The law, the commandments, and Christians.

    Quite a mixture of not so consistent concepts here IMO. So we ignore the 7th comandment but still need to be cognizant of another bit of legality, the marriage contract? Either way, nothing was said about setting the commandment as the law of one's life, but of the benefit of simply having...
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    The law, the commandments, and Christians.

    To this day the church teaches that constant renewal of the Church and continuous conversion of its people, leaders and laity alike, is essential. Vigilance, due to human weakness and sin, is sometimes lacking as it was in the Assembly of God church I used to attend where scandal ended up...
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    The law, the commandments, and Christians.

    No, it's just wisdom being displayed: coming to understand how God works in His world. That's certainly not a position I offered. What we discussed was that God ensures that we have a means to know the truth with a degree of certainty DESPITE man's weaknesses, limitations, imperfection and sin...
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    The law, the commandments, and Christians.

    You're not getting it. It's a matter of who decides. You? Or the Church? This individual or that? Not even Augustine could make that decision for the Church even though he agreed with the Catholic canon. The Church decided-and ran with- that's its job, whether small and persecuted or big and...
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    The law, the commandments, and Christians.

    Relative to the consensus as demonstrated by the canon actually used, yes, tiny. You've listed a handful of dissenters, which means nothing much in itself. And you know as well as I that the discussion centered on the acrocrypha -and why the Reformers would be motivated to reject it due to...
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    The law, the commandments, and Christians.

    There was a relatively tiny amount of controversy compared to acceptance within the ancient chruches until today. Meanwhile the Reformers had issues with both canons. And that has exactly nothing to do with the doctrinal objections to the apocrypha.
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    The law, the commandments, and Christians.

    Ok, so you've determined the quantity of controvery that's allowable in this particualrlar case? True, the east actually included even more books in their canon. As for the differences, the east and west agree on the teachings that the Reformers objected to.
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    The law, the commandments, and Christians.

    Sorry for such a late reply here-the forum problem simply wouldn't allow this to post previously. I’ll give a real-life practical example so we're not just reciting theory here. I knew a man who became Christian in his 20’s or 30’s, grew in faith, along with hope and love as he continued in his...
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    The law, the commandments, and Christians.

    We can demonstatrate that both canons involved some degree of controversy in the early churches. And later. And so? The East, in the main, accepted the apopcrypha as well, and still does. Additionally the doctrinal concerns that the Reformers objected to are not an issue with the East.
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    The law, the commandments, and Christians.

    Ok, here’s what we really have. In truth, there have been dissenters regarding both the OT and NT canons from the beginning. Both canons, totaling 73 books, were recognized by 99% of the churches (apparently your criterion for universal acceptance and validity as per post #369) for centuries...
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    The law, the commandments, and Christians.

    Um...I never once mentioned that you did. It was used as analogy. Even if that were true, so what? But the reason in any case was to counter the canon as enumerated by the Reformers. And as @Valetta said in a previous post: "All of the European Bibles contained the 73 books chosen by the...
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    The law, the commandments, and Christians.

    What you’re doing is like saying that Arianism was so widespread and strong for centuries in the Christian world that therefore Arianism is true, an argument the JWs make by the way. But what did the Church do? Even despite widespread popularity and possible support from Constantine and definite...
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    The law, the commandments, and Christians.

    I have addressed your posts, and the ignoring has been all yours. and any historian without a dog in this fight would agree.
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