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Recent content by AntiCow

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    SSM postal vote

    If discrimination is wrong, that does not mean that anti-discrimination law should be used against it. Plenty of things are wrong but legal. Anti-discrimination laws were first introduced against systemic discrimination- the kind of situation where absolutely every business would racially...
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    SSM postal vote

    Interesting. I don't know enough about the Israeli system to comment further.
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    No legal definition of marriage certainly is hard to imagine, but I'm told Israel doesn't even have civil marriage, so it's not completely unheard of.
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    SSM postal vote

    "If you read an article about a couple who have been married for 60 years and are still happy and in love, do you sneer and say "That's not a real marriage." if you hear they never had children? Personally, I'd be impressed and cheered." I don't know how you get this from anything I wrote. As...
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    "Marriage is not only for children. Unless you propose that hetrosexual couples who can't have children shouldn't be bothered with marriage?" While children are the primary purpose of marriage, I wouldn't say that marriage is only for children. Obviously it has many other benefits. I would say...
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    SSM postal vote

    A heart surgeon who doesn't understand that hearts are for pumping blood may make bad decisions. So it is with us; if we don't understand what marriage is for, we will make bad decisions about marriage. But I've talked long enough about that, and you raise an excellent point - it is true that...
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    SSM postal vote

    I've been talking about why marriage exists as an institution and why it is such a constant throughout human history, not why individual couples get married, or what a given culture might think, so there is no contradiction here. Also re gays and lesbians in the past: SSM has been very rare...
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    SSM postal vote

    Hi Shemjaza, I was talking about what marriage is, not what the law about marriage should be. These are separate questions; I think we agree on that much. Nevertheless SSM rhetoric clearly takes the view that marriage is about love rather than children. I've heard people say that marriage has...
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    SSM postal vote

    Why does marriage exist and what is it for? - Sex exists to bring forth children. - Sexual attraction exists to make people want to have sex, thus bringing forth children. - Monogamy exists because children take a lot of time and effort to raise. - Marriage is the institutionalisation of...
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    SSM postal vote

    "What groups?" Polygamists, polyamorists, bigamists, and that's just for starters.
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    SSM postal vote

    I didn't know that only one side is allowed to argue on this forum. I don't post here very often. So I won't try to start a massive debate, but I'll make a couple of points. "Many people have differing opinions of the purpose of marriage, but unless those rules are universally applicable (and...
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    SSM postal vote

    If you want to convince a "no" person to vote yes, start by formulating why marriage exists and what it is for, and why gay marriage is compatible with that understanding. Do you want to convince a "yes" person to vote no? Perhaps by asking these questions - what is a right? On what basis does...
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    SSM postal vote

    A lot of articles from the "no" side focus on the risk to free speech, freedom of religion and so forth. While these are important, I feel that they are peripheral to the subject at hand. The pro-SSM side starts with this question: What are the rights of gays and lesbians? The "no" side starts...
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    Lust is normal

    I agree with sinneD. Lust is inappropriate sexual arousal, which ought to be avoided. The good stuff needs another name; I'm not sure what.
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    You ever hear of "Honeytree"

    I found out about Honeytree by raiding my parents music collection (and also from long car trips as a kid lol). They only have one of her albums - the self titled one I think - which I listen to very frequently. Has vanished from the Christian bookshops by now unfortunately. Can't even buy it...
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