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Lets gets this straight. Clearly this video is trying to paint the " Left" in a light that is not the least bit accurate. Right from the beginning, where he expains the birth of right and left , he needs some clarification. It's true history is explained below.
As a result of this major correction between church and state, there was a radical movement to wipe out all Christianity however it was not completly realized. The " radical " movement in a sense brought back the natural order of the Fathers will,
Now let's look at what was actually happening in Mexico.
I wanted to add some accurate historical context to this video because this post is claiming that it " may relate to today's social and political divisions and conflicts ". I disagree. Today's tension is the hypocrisy present in many MAGA churches. No one is destroying Christianity as a matter of fact, the very words of Jesus Christ of Nazareth " love thy neighbor " are repeated continously within left circles. In conclusion, this video is so inexcusable that it should be labeled as far right propaganda.
Actually I was thinking more generall and not specific examples. A general ideological position of the Right and Left about belief in God. For which the church represented throughout society.
Historically, which church are you speaking of? Let's not overlook the fact that for centuries, the Roman Catholic Church wielded its immense power to suppress any perceived threat to its religious and political monopoly, resulting in a staggering death toll that reached into the millions. Don't forget the inquisition!
Thanks i won't have to watch it all cause every post I have seen of yours has good discernment. I reiterate often the foundation of repentance is humility, not the love of money. Weird eschatology too from many Maga Christians. I hang with many, but Trump I think is supposed to fail, to expose the weakness of America. I am in no way saying I am better but that path is not maga. The other problem with left/right is that it should be far more convoluted because left/right only is not a good descriptor of ideology, it is too simplified to rest on two axes.
The protestors are much more responsible for the deaths than ICE. ICE has crossed no line, Governor Walz has fanned the flames of hatred by name calling and talking about "atrocities" committed by ICE. It is a political narrative. Agitators have interfered in arrests, one guy they were after in Minneapolis was wanted for facilitating child sex acts and now he is free because of the "protesters." Are we even going to see an apology from those who allowed this man to escape when more children are sexually abused because he got free? We know the answer. Human trafficking is big money in Minnesota, there were just some Asian women being trafficked a couple of miles from where I live. Some Minnesotans don't want trafficking to stop.
Anti- Catholic? I am a fully baptised and confirmed Catholic. I learned about Jesus Christ of Nazareth from my Catholic school. I am very appreciative of the foundation. Thay being said, I am not going to tip toe through its dark history. The RCC has repented.
Your numbers leave a lot to be desired. There's been plenty of sinners and wrongoding in the Catholic faith just like others, but much of the numbers and history were fabricated during and after the reformation.
There are evil people who get into communist stuff while other worldly people can get into religious stuff . . . wherever there is possible power to be had, and opportunity to get what evil people want.
. . . now you will have the Biblical Methodists with members who might stay with the conservative part of the split, even if they find they do not agree with what the leaders consider to be Biblical > they won't leave, possibly, because their version of Methodism is all they have left after the split, and they are loyal to the **name** "Methodist". And, like this, there are Episcopals who won't switch to Catholic or Baptist or Congregational (conservative) because they are loyal to the name "Episcopal" and hope to rescue the Episcopal church or at least use the setting to reach others for Christ. If you don't care about the people, working on some one person requires "too much" effort.
Yes and the interesting thing I think Knowles was pointing out was the common theme throughout history with revolutions is that the church is always the target. Sooner or later the attention turns to the church.
I think this is more about direct sin. Its not political but moral. Which is another layer of dark or demonic spirits as part of human fallen flesh. But communuism or Marxism may be in principles a good system. Or subscribe to moral goods such as equality for all. But its how they achieve this.
Yes. Which I think is the opposite side of the coin. Just as world powers attack the church. The church will become political and attack other world powers. But this is the church stepping into the boxing ring of political ideology.
Yes I think you can have a communist or someone who lives within a communist culture can be good and even a Christian. In fact in some ways the masses oppressed by communism are doing nothing wrong. They are trying to survive and live with little. They are resilent.
Yes I think that is the greatest issue facing the church. That they are seen as hyocrites and don't practice what they preach.
I think the rise of civil and individual rights has changed the political climate. As opposed to collective rights.
You make a good point. There is a conflict between individualism and collectivism. Indigenous peoples will usually be more collective and even putting others before themselves. This is similar to Christian ideals.
It is about power and control. Even if its a church doing it. Fundementally all these world ideologies are about control and power. But when it gets to a point where the church and especially Christianity is targeted as part of the power and control between all these entities. Its not as if the church has done something wrong. Its more a case that because its about power and control ultimately one will want to control the other.
Heres the thing though. This had already happened to the wider society before it went into the churches. This was an engineered change from within. As opposed to past revolutions where the people wared or rioted against those in power.
Yes money and power. I think the power of media has changed things a lot as well. More people reached. But more importantly more people indoctrinated by whatever they want to push.And the Methodists have split, I have been told. Well, whoever stays with the "liberal" side of the split might tend to go the way of the leadership so they can be controlled. Meanwhile . . .
In any case, then, what you could be seeing is how ones seeking power can try to take over a whole group. That can be more efficient than reaching people one at a time > instead, control a group of thousands, even millions, in maybe a few years of effort . . . or spend years reaching to some one person and then go after another one
But Jesus reached people personally. Yes, He handled group activities; however, perhaps our most attention-getting stories are about individuals He helped and how He related personally with Peter and Thomas and Mary and Martha and others. Our Father is personal with each of us, and Jesus calls us individually to come to ***Him*** (Matthew 11:28-30, 1 Corinthians 6:17), but then to share and care as His family (John 13:34, John 17:20-23).
So . . . can we say that a lot of large-scale church organization is about personal relating as God's family????
I would say, basically not. But it is a target, so ones can adopt all the members and use them **without putting much personal attention into each member**. And it can be a target if it is interfering with people getting what they want. And I suppose a number of church people can try to use the numbers of their groups for political and land control purposes. Plus, by trying to control the non-religious in large numbers, this can make the organization a target.
They "might" not be attacking certain religious buildings and groups because they are against the preaching of the cross, then.
And there might be money in the mix.
Thats another aspect to the dynamics. As well as political ideologies like Communism or Marxism want to target the church. We have radical Islam wanting to do the same.
I thought the church was built on these values. The bible actually teaches this. To help the poor and widows.
