Why are Democrats suddenly silent on the Epstine files?

[Say it aint so]

The more this goes on.
The more the DOJ not only flouts the law, but provides favorable treatment of Epstein co-conspirators.
The more we find out that Trump was indeed sending girls over to Epstein.
The more we know Trump fought tooth and nail to keep the report hidden.
The more we know we see Trump enacting retribution not to just Democrats, but Republicans for voting to release the files.
The more this will not go away.
The more no one, both Republican and Democrat, will not stay silence.
The more Trump will continue to be hung by his own petard.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

All we are saying is that it wasn't a crime, not that it was morally acceptable behavior. Do you think they are the same thing?

Great. Now show me where in the Epstine files where Trump actually commented a crime. Gee, here is a picture of Teump taking a group photo with a bunch of supposedly underage minors, and liberals go off the rails. But show a verifiable situation where a democrat president is given oral sex by a staffer? No no crimes occurred. Now, going back to the topic, show me exactly where Trump actually committed a crime in the Epstine files. Because apparently, oral sex in the oval office and being half naked in a hot tub with minors is not a crime.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

For the record, you are now defending quid pro quo sexual favors in the oval office. Just saying. "What is the big deal? What is the crime? All he did was make her suck his (fill in the blank) for promotion points. "

Monica Lewinsky was a grownup, that choose to give Bill Clinton oral. She wasn't a victim. I don't agree with a man cheating on his wife. That should be a personal matter. Paula Jones is another matter. She was sexual harassment. I believe it was an illegal matter. But people don't usually go to jail for sexually harassment. Bill Clinton and Paula Jones settled. Which is typical of sexual harassment. But the most victim usually gets way less, than Paula Jones got. Of course, Bill Clinton should be punished, if he raped teenagers or anyone. We have no idea what any president is doing behind closed doors in the oval office, or White House. As long it's consensual adults, I consider it none of my business. Trump talked about sexually assaulting females, before he became president. He has history of sexual assaults. I'm not sure why people defend anyone, that sexually assaults people.

 

[BCP1928]

Great. Now show me where in the Epstine files where Trump actually commented a crime.

How can I do that when I haven't seen the files? I have no actionable evidence that he had sex with underage girls.

Gee, here is a picture of Teump taking a group photo with a bunch of supposedly underage minors, and liberals go off the rails.

It's pretty clear that you have no idea why "liberals are off the rails."

But show a verifiable situation where a democrat president is given oral sex by a staffer? No no crimes occurred.

That's right. No crimes occurred.

Now, going back to the topic, show me exactly where Trump actually committed a crime in the Epstine files.

Why? Is it important to you that he has committed a crime?

Because apparently, oral sex in the oval office and being half naked in a hot tub with minors is not a crime.

I don't think those things are crimes. If you do, why don't you quote the statutes that were violated?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Great. Now show me where in the Epstine files where Trump actually commented a crime.

Where has anyone alleged that Trump has committed any crime? We think it’s weird he seems to be running cover for these criminals but I don’t think anyone has directly implicated him being involved in anything specific. Just general long time chumminess with a known, convicted pdf file. That’s all.

Gee, here is a picture of Teump taking a group photo with a bunch of supposedly underage minors, and liberals go off the rails. But show a verifiable situation where a democrat president is given oral sex by a staffer? No no crimes occurred.

Well yeah because that’s not a crime. Maybe unscrupulous but certainly not a crime to be unfaithful to one’s spouse. If that’s the line, I’m sure Trump has gotten many a few bjs from his various mistresses over the decades. The right doesn’t have any problem with a thrice married philanderer so I’m not sure why the big hang up on Bill. Both him and Trump are like birds of a sleazy feather.

Now, going back to the topic, show me exactly where Trump actually committed a crime in the Epstine files. Because apparently, oral sex in the oval office and being half naked in a hot tub with minors is not a crime.

Not that I’m defending either of those but unlike Trump’s convicted felonies, these aren’t crimes.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Monica Lewinsky was a grownup, that choose to give Bill Clinton oral. She wasn't a victim. I don't agree with a man cheating on his wife. That should be a personal matter. Paula Jones is another matter. She was sexual harassment. I believe it was an illegal matter. But people don't usually go to jail for sexually harassment. Bill Clinton and Paula Jones settled. Which is typical of sexual harassment. But the most victim usually gets way less, than Paula Jones got. Of course, Bill Clinton should be punished, if he raped teenagers or anyone. We have no idea what any president is doing behind closed doors in the oval office, or White House. As long it's consensual adults, I consider it none of my business. Trump talked about sexually assaulting females, before he became president. He has history of sexual assaults. I'm not sure why people defend anyone, that sexually assaults people.

QUID PRO QUO IS A VIOLATION THAT GETS PEOPLE FIRED. Seriously? You are now justifying and defending a boss taking advantage of his position of power to have a subordinate perform sexual favors Why? Because it is a democrat.

 

[7thKeeper]

QUID PRO QUO IS A VIOLATION THAT GETS PEOPLE FIRED. Seriously? You are now justifying and defending a boss taking advantage of his position of power to have a subordinate perform sexual favors Why? Because it is a democrat.

"Gets people fired" isn't the same as jailed. Come on, you're trying to equite two adults cheating and other things in what seemed to be still a consensual situation based on what's known, with people having sex with minors. You are literally trying to push what Epstein and those involved did up to the same level as this. Shame.

 

[BCP1928]

QUID PRO QUO IS A VIOLATION THAT GETS PEOPLE FIRED. Seriously? You are now justifying and defending a boss taking advantage of his position of power to have a subordinate perform sexual favors Why? Because it is a democrat.

Nobody here is justifying or defending it. We are just pointing out that it was not a crime.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Nobody here is justifying or defending it. We are just pointing out that it was not a crime.

Wrong. @CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN is justifying and defending it. Apparently, according to her, it is completely okay for a boss to abuse their power and make a subordinate give them oral sex if they are two "consenting adults." Only if the perpetrator is a democrat...period.

 

[7thKeeper]

Wrong. @CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN is justifying and defending it. Apparently, according to her, it is completely okay for a boss to abuse their power and make a subordinate give them oral sex if they are two "consenting adults." Only if the perpetrator is a democrat...period.

And now you're just twisting people's words to try to distract away from Epstein. You got pushback for trying to equate what Epstein did with what Clinton did. That's what the whole discussion was about. They're not even in the same ballpark. Shame.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

And now you're just twisting people's words to try to distract away from Epstein. You got pushback for trying to equate what Epstein did with what Clinton did. That's what the whole discussion was about. They're not even in the same ballpark. Shame.

Of course. Everything is just a DISTRACTION from Jeffery Epstine. Even when the files point to democratic politicians, it is still just a Distraction! So basically, anything that does not directly involve Trump, it is just a.distraction. I mean, literally! She justified Bill Clinton making Monica Lewinsky give oral sex because she was a "consenting adult." So apparently bosses making women perform sexual favors is back on the menu according to Crazy cat woman.

 

[perplexed]

So apparently bosses making women perform sexual favors is back on the menu

Exactly how did Bill Clinton make Monica Lewinsky perform sexual favors.

 

[RileyG]

Monica Lewinsky was a grownup, that choose to give Bill Clinton oral. She wasn't a victim. I don't agree with a man cheating on his wife. That should be a personal matter. Paula Jones is another matter. She was sexual harassment. I believe it was an illegal matter. But people don't usually go to jail for sexually harassment. Bill Clinton and Paula Jones settled. Which is typical of sexual harassment. But the most victim usually gets way less, than Paula Jones got. Of course, Bill Clinton should be punished, if he raped teenagers or anyone. We have no idea what any president is doing behind closed doors in the oval office, or White House. As long it's consensual adults, I consider it none of my business. Trump talked about sexually assaulting females, before he became president. He has history of sexual assaults. I'm not sure why people defend anyone, that sexually assaults people.

Bill Clinton knew what he was doing, and he had a HUGE authority over her. Neither one were the victim.

 

[RileyG]

Exactly how did Bill Clinton make Monica Lewinsky perform sexual favors.

Consent? Both were adults. Both were responsible for their decisions. They knew what they were doing. It doesn't happen by accident.

 

[RileyG]

I don't understand the importance of this unless it's about how many pictures D and R hung out with Epstein. I see it as rich with the rich, which was smaller in the 2000s. All I care about is that lawbreakers be put in jail.

I agree completely.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Bill Clinton knew what he was doing, and he had a HUGE authority over her. Neither one were the victim.

While this is true, US society hadn't properly dealt with the impact of power on the implications for consent. This really did change and Clinton's scandal was part of it.

 

[RileyG]

While this is true, US society hadn't properly dealt with the impact of power on the implications for consent. This really did change and Clinton's scandal was part of it.

Thanks for the clarification. I was very, very young when it happened and have no memory of it. As a matter of fact, Clinton was president when I was born.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Thanks for the clarification. I was very, very young when it happened and have no memory of it. As a matter of fact, Clinton was president when I was born.

The president was actively committing crimes when I was born.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Exactly how did Bill Clinton make Monica Lewinsky perform sexual favors.

Yes. Exactly how did most powerful man in the free world make an inter performance oral sex? That is quite the mystery.

 

[Servus]

Yes. Exactly how did most powerful man in the free world make an inter performance oral sex? That is quite the mystery.

Apparently #MeToo isn't a thing anymore.