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Green is my favourite colour.

I do like green vestments, but I like red and gold for martyrs best.

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In both the Eastern and Western liturgical rites, red is customary for St. Thomas Sunday (low Sunday), and Holy Days of the Apostles, Martyrs and the Holy Cross.

In the Eastern churches Gold is the default color, with Green being used on Holy Days associated with new life, such as Palm Sunday, Pentecost and All Saints Day, and it also can be used on Sundays commemorating Monastics and Confessors. I have heard of some churches using a dark green vestment on one of the Sundays of Lent, such as that of St. Gregory Palamas, St. John Climacus or St. Mary of Egypt, but it is more common to see Purple on all Saturdays and Sundays of Lent. Likewise, the Ambrosian Rite does not use violet, but Morello, which is a more reddish color, on Sundays of Lent, but like the Byzantine Rite, wears black on weekdays in Lent (which are aliturgical in the Ambrosian Rite, whereas we have the Liturgy of the Presanctified)
 
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Green is my favourite colour.

I do like green vestments, but I like red and gold for martyrs best.

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Have you seen the beautiful white, red and gold vestments used by the Syriac Orthodox and also the Malankara Catholics? (but noot by the Syro-Malabar Catholics; there are lots of subgroups among the Mar Thoma Christians in India.
 
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As I mentioned previously, in the Ambrosian Rite, in Lent, makes use of a beautiful liturgical color you’ve never seen or heard of, on Saturdays and Sundays (on weekdays when the mass is not celebrated, which I think includes all of them, they use black vestments like what many Orthodox juse). Here you can see the Archbushoo of Milan wearing Morello vestments:

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As I mentioned previously, in the Ambrosian Rite, in Lent, makes use of a beautiful liturgical color you’ve never seen or heard of, on Saturdays and Sundays (on weekdays when the mass is not celebrated, which I think includes all of them, they use black vestments like what many Orthodox juse). Here you can see the Archbushoo of Milan wearing Morello vestments:

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Sadly, it’s not celebrated much anymore. :(
 
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Sadly, it’s not celebrated much anymore. :(

It’s the predominant rite in Milan. I think you’re confusing it with the Mozarabic Rite, which only has white vestments as far as I am aware, and that survives only in a special chapel in the Cathedral of Toledo and in a nearby monastery, although Pope John Paul II did celebrate it in St. Peter’s in 1995.
 
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It’s the predominant rite in Milan. I think you’re confusing it with the Mozarabic Rite, which only has white vestments as far as I am aware, and that survives only in a special chapel in the Cathedral of Toledo and in a nearby monastery, although Pope John Paul II did celebrate it in St. Peter’s in 1995.
Oh yes! You’re right! My mistake
 
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Oh yes! You’re right! My mistake

I may be into obscure liturgics but I haven’t yet reached the point to where I’m linking to liturgical colors in a liturgical rite that is celebrated in 0 parishes.
 
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I myself would like to see more liturgical colors introduced. One thing I love about the Syriac Orthodox is that, with a few exceptions, such as when all the Orthodox Churches use dark vestments, in Holy Week (and remember, the Eastern Orthodox typikon (technically there are more than one, but they all agree on this point, except for those used by the Western Rite parishes) only specifies light or dark vestments - everything else is up to individual jurisdictions or, very often, individual parishes and monasteries), there is no set pattern of liturgical colors.

This results, on occasion, in clergy wearing different colors, that are color coordinated. On one occasion, at St. Ephrem’s Cathedral in Burbank, Fr. Abdullahad Shara, memory eternal, and another priest who recently retired, wore a blue vestment and a violet vestment, both with red trim; the occasion was memorable because afterwards in the trapeza (dining hall) the two sang a duet of liturgical hymns in Syriac.

Here we see a colorful set of vestments worn by different bishops including His Holiness Patriarch Ignatius Zakka Iwas, memory eternal:

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I would like to see more use of liturgical color in the Byzantine and Western Rites on a controlled basis within parishes and cathedrals - rather than having everyone wear identical colors, the use of coordinated colors I think is indicated. For example, both green and red are traditional for Pentecost, in different parts of the church, and there are ways of making the two colors work together, as we can see from the Syriac Orthodox example.

Some people might prefer more restrained liturgical color, so I am not calling for this on a universal basis. Rather, I think different parishes should be free to, in accord with congregational and clerical preferences, develop their use of liturgical colors.

One sad fact of the counter-Reformation was the loss of most regional uses of the Roman Rite, many of which had distinct liturgical colors and color schemes. The Sarum Rite had its eponymous blue, much beloved by the Lutheran parish of my friend @MarkRohfrietsch , the York Rite made use of yellow, red, white and black, but not green or violet, and to this day the surviving Lyonaise Rite uses a distinct tan color of vestments on Ash Wednesday, which I quite like. Dominicans tend to wear white vestments with the proper liturgical color in the trim.

There used to be much more of this diversity, and it was greatly preferable to the current situation, where the surviving liturgical rites are overstandardized, and frequently in the case of the Novus Ordo Mass and other parishes vestments are used which are simplified, not traditional in design, or ugly (indeed an entire blog, the Bad Vestments blog, documented this phenomenon). Meanwhile too many Christians, even in members of otherwise traditional Anglican and Lutheran denominations, worship in parishes with the clergy not vested, for example, the cathedral of the Anglican Archdiocese of Sydney (this is actually a violation to the canons of the Second Council of Nicaea, which requires clergy to be vested, as the Iconoclasts tended instead to wear extremely expensive secular clothing, not unlike the prosperity gospel preachers of today, who wear expensive tailored suits and bling). With vested clergy, the identity of the celebrants is obscured, and the celebrants are more able to act in persona Christi, with the attention of the congregation directed on Christ, where it should be. And all beautiful vestments glorify Christ, whether following a simple aesthetic such as that of the Cistercians, or a colorful flowery aesthetic such as that of the persecuted Syriac Orthodox who with their Antiochian, Armenian, Anglican, and Melkite Greek Catholic brethren are experiencing a genocide in Syria as we speak, requiring our prayers.
 
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By the way, we did mention them before I think, but since we just either completed Advent or the penultimate Sunday of Advent for Christians on the Coptic and Julian Calendar, including the ROCOR Western Rite parishes, rose vestments - for Gaudete Sunday and Laetare Sunday…. I like these. I’d like to see Western churches use them in restoring the traditional Apostles’ Fast between the Monday following Trinity Sunday and the Feast of the Apostles Saints Peter and Paul.
 
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Also as much as I love green and gold vestments, they are overused, the former in Western Rite churches, the latter in Byzantine Rite churches.
 
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Interesting. I've only seen White used for funerals.
In the interest of keeping discussion going, I am replying to RileyG's post...

While we maintain the use of the colour of the season for Funerals, the Casket Pall, and the one we have for an urn of cremated remains, are always white. These white accessories are a remembrance/a memento of our baptism, where we traditionally put a white garment on a child or person at Baptism and Confirmation; robes washed white in the blood of the lamb.

When I assist with Funerals, I wear a black cassock and white surplus for the same reason.
 

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In the interest of keeping discussion going, I am replying to RileyG's post...

While we maintain the use of the colour of the season for Funerals, the Casket Pall, and the one we have for an urn of cremated remains, are always white. These white accessories are a remembrance/a memento of our baptism, where we traditionally put a white garment on a child or person at Baptism and Confirmation; robes washed white in the blood of the lamb.

When I assist with Funerals, I wear a black cassock and white surplus for the same reason.

Eastern Orthodox normally use white vestments at Baptisms, Chrismations, and funerals, and also Feasts of the Lord (Nativity, Theophany, Pascha, at a minimum, from the Vesperal Divine Liturgy on the morning of Holy Saturday (also the traditional time of Paschal Vigil Masses in the West) and Paschal Matins, with Russians, except ROCOR, but not the Ukrainians or Bulgarians, switching from black to white before the start or the anaphora at the Vesperal Divine Liturgy and then from white to red between Paschal Matins and the Vesperal Divine Liturgy*, which is worn until Ascension Thursday, and then back to white until the saturday before Pentecost. However other Orthodox such as the Ukrainians, the Serbians, Bulgarians and Antiochians will tend to wear white from Pascha until Pentecost. The white vestments come out one final time in the church year on the feast of the Transfiguration, and usually the Sunday following Transfiguration.

Blue is worn on Candlemas and the Annunciation as these are grouped with the Marian holidays even though they are also feasts of our Lord, conversely, white vestments are normally worn at the Synaxis of the Theotokos on the day after Christmas, despite that being a Marian holiday. This reflects the fact that all Marian feasts are Dominical feasts and all Dominical feasts are Marian feasts, because the Blessed Virgin Mary is the Mother of God, the means of his hypostatic union with us.

*This is likely since in Russian, the Church Slavonic word for “bright” and “beautiful” is homonymous with the word “red;” ROCOR has always had Ukrainian as well as Russian members (including the Canadian primate, Metropolitan Hilarion Kapral, who reposed of cancer in summer at a relatively young age in 2022, may his memory be eternal) and in Ukrainian, this is not the case, and additionally was the favored Russian Orthodox jurisdiction for White partisan emigres, known for extreme opposition to Communism and the USSR, as opposed to the moderate stance of the Metropolia (which at the time consisted of Russians, Ukrainians, Aleuts and other Native Alaskans, some conwertsy, and Carpatho-Rusyn / Ruthenian Greek Catholic converts, and is now even more multiethnic and known as the Orthodox Church of America, home to half of the Romanian and Bulgarian Orthodox in the US and Canada and nearly all of the Albanians, and together with the Antiochians and ROCOR, home the greatest numbers of converts and the majority of English language parishes.
 
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I was Senior Warden of the Vestry when my church decided to buy new sets of vestments for two priests. I do not recall the amount, but I do recall my feeling of having sticker shock. This discussion of liturgically correct vestment choices leads me to asking, how much money does a typical priest or parish need to spend to complete their wardrobe for all of the liturgical seasons?
 
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However other Orthodox such as the Ukrainians, the Serbians, Bulgarians and Antiochians will tend to wear white from Pascha until Pentecost.
*This is likely since in Russian, the Church Slavonic word for “bright” and “beautiful” is homonymous with the word “red;”
White is worn from Pascha to Pentecost (where green is then worn) in OCA Churches i have been in. Krasnaya (Красная).
 
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White is worn from Pascha to Pentecost (where green is then worn) in OCA Churches i have been in. Krasnaya (Красная).

Indeed, most OCA parishes follow that pattern. A few ethnically Russian churches do not, for example, Holy Virgin Mary Russian Orthodox Cathedral in Los Angeles, which is an OCA cathedral with services in English and Church Slavonic, also a dual-calendar parish.
 
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In the interest of keeping discussion going, I am replying to RileyG's post...

While we maintain the use of the colour of the season for Funerals, the Casket Pall, and the one we have for an urn of cremated remains, are always white. These white accessories are a remembrance/a memento of our baptism, where we traditionally put a white garment on a child or person at Baptism and Confirmation; robes washed white in the blood of the lamb.

When I assist with Funerals, I wear a black cassock and white surplus for the same reason.
Thanks for the response! I appreciate it! :)
 
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Also as much as I love green and gold vestments, they are overused, the former in Western Rite churches, the latter in Byzantine Rite churches.
My dioceses cathedral (Roman Catholic) used gold vestments for Christmas Eve Mass this year. At my own parish, white was used.
 
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