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Hello,

i created a thread a few months ago on this forum, asking muslim Allah to kill me if He does exist. The thread was moderated and closed.
I read someone mentionning on the thread a killing in England the day after this of its creation. No other substantial reply

i created a few days ago, on the "kitchen sink" as well, a thread questionning about the moral purpose of the veiling. No reply either, but i heard about a killing, the day after it was created in Australia.

Do you think, please, it's just my paranoïa, or it could be more than a coincidence between these killings and the threads ?
(Actually, it's just that the killings makes me more and more doubting muslim Allah exists, and moral arguing also for veiling)
 

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It is not stated in the regulations for this forum, but writing about Islam, Mormons, and Jehovah Witnesses in any detail seems to be avoided. I think it mostly revolves around the divinity of Christ more than anything else. I doubt there is any connection between your post and crimes committed by Islamic terrorists. Whether Allah is the same God as the Christian God might make for an interesting discussion, and you can find a little of it in “Why do people hate ICE.”
 
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It is not stated in the regulations for this forum, but writing about Islam, Mormons, and Jehovah Witnesses in any detail seems to be avoided
All right, Jerry !
Had just hoped a constructive debate could happen with believers of muslim allah or with veiling partisans, this sub-forum being open for non christian believers, and honestly questionning myself on these issues. Let's forget it !
 
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Hello,

i created a thread a few months ago on this forum, asking muslim Allah to kill me if He does exist. The thread was moderated and closed.
I read someone mentionning on the thread a killing in England the day after this of its creation. No other substantial reply

i created a few days ago, on the "kitchen sink" as well, a thread questionning about the moral purpose of the veiling. No reply either, but i heard about a killing, the day after it was created in Australia.

Do you think, please, it's just my paranoïa, or it could be more than a coincidence between these killings and the threads ?
(Actually, it's just that the killings makes me more and more doubting muslim Allah exists, and moral arguing also for veiling)
Of course Allah exists for the Muslim just as G_d exists for the Jews and it is the same God that the Christian's worship however, the big difference is access.

" No one can come to the Father except through me". Jesus Christ of Nazareth

No access, not heard.

What you need to be concerned with is your attempt to test your Father through other means in other words, you think there is power where there is none and more egregious was your attempt to cause harm to yourself for proof.

Sorry to be so candid, your post was very unsettling.

Be blessed.
 
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Of course Allah exists for the Muslim just as G_d exists for the Jews and it is the same God that the Christian's worship however, the big difference is access.

" No one can come to the Father except through me". Jesus Christ of Nazareth

No access, not heard.

What you need to be concerned with is your attempt to test your Father through other means in other words, you think there is power where there is none and more egregious was your attempt to cause harm to yourself for proof.

Sorry to be so candid, your post was very unsettling.

Be blessed.
I vaguely remember having a discussion with Moslems many years ago. Supreme gods that created the universe are not uncommon. Allah, Vishnu, and Yahweh share similar attributes. This probably comes from the fact that we are all decedents of Noah. The question is at what point are the differences so great that they are not the same Being. My Moslem friends said we worshiped the same God, but some of the Muslim Brotherhood put a bomb in the place I worked. The bomb was found and nothing happened. I personally don’t think that Allah and Yahweh are the same, but I understand why some would disagree. After all, my understanding of Yahweh is very limited to my little brain. However, Jesus is the key. We have a better understanding of Him.

A mere human challenging God in any way indicates that the person making the challenge doesn’t understand the relationship. There is no reason God would feel the need to accept the challenge. If Allah is God, why would He want to take away the precious gift of life He gave you because you challenged Him?
 
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Do you think, please, it's just my paranoïa, or it could be more than a coincidence between these killings and the threads ?

It's just coincidence. People are, unfortunately, murdered every day. Our posts here don't cause the murders.

I didn't see your earlier thread asking God to kill you, but I wouldn't expect God to grant a request like that.

On veiling, we've had lots of discussions about head coverings in the past here on CF, and I didn't think I had anything new to add this time around. Covering one's head to show submission to men makes me uncomfortable, but if it's done to show reverence for God, then that's a positive thing. Romans 14 probably applies here.
 
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