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Didascalia Apostolorum Teaching of the Apostles inspired scripture

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This text internally is written by the apostles in Jerusalem. It contains phrases like I Peter, me Peter, I Mathew , we apostles.
Epiphanius Salamis 300s AD said it was written by the apostles like it said. So I believe it was written pre 70 AD, and is inspired scripture. It is a lot like the Didache which also internally dates to before 70 AD but Didascalia is a lot longer. It is on audiobook here


Here is chat GPT summary of the teachings of the text

The Didascalia Apostolorum presents itself as apostolic instruction, spoken in the collective voice of the apostles with Peter as chief spokesman, addressing how Christian communities are to live faithfully before God; it teaches that believers are no longer bound to the ritual requirements of the Mosaic Law, emphasizing instead moral obedience, repentance, mercy, and care for the poor, while portraying the bishop as a shepherd and physician who must govern gently, restore sinners, and guard the community from injustice; the text regulates church order, family life, sexual conduct, the roles of women and widows, almsgiving, and discipline, consistently stressing that authority exists for healing and salvation rather than punishment, and that Christian life replaces temple sacrifice with prayer, charity, and faithful endurance amid opposition.

It uses the word Catholic which means universal. There is no Mary worship in the text. It says Peter was buried in the Vatican

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In the first century, there was no “Vatican” as an institution and no St. Peter’s Basilica. The area now called the Vatican was simply Vatican Hill (Mons Vaticanus)—a low hill outside Rome’s sacred boundary (pomerium) on the west bank of the Tiber. It was largely non-urban, used for gardens, cemeteries (necropolis), and imperial leisure. Under Caligula and Nero, a large chariot-racing stadium—the Circus of Nero (or Circus of Caligula)—stood there. According to early Christian memory, Nero executed Christians in this area, and Peter was martyred nearby, traditionally buried in the adjacent necropolis. That grave became the focal point for later veneration, which—centuries later—led Constantine to build the first basilica over it (4th century).

Summary: In the first century, the “Vatican” was a geographic location tied to imperial Rome and early Christian martyrdom, not a church state or headquarters; its later significance grew because of Peter’s burial, not because it already held authority.
 

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This text internally is written by the apostles in Jerusalem. It contains phrases like I Peter, me Peter, I Mathew , we apostles.
Epiphanius Salamis 300s AD said it was written by the apostles like it said. So I believe it was written pre 70 AD, and is inspired scripture. It is a lot like the Didache which also internally dates to before 70 AD but Didascalia is a lot longer. It is on audiobook here


Here is chat GPT summary of the teachings of the text

The Didascalia Apostolorum presents itself as apostolic instruction, spoken in the collective voice of the apostles with Peter as chief spokesman, addressing how Christian communities are to live faithfully before God; it teaches that believers are no longer bound to the ritual requirements of the Mosaic Law, emphasizing instead moral obedience, repentance, mercy, and care for the poor, while portraying the bishop as a shepherd and physician who must govern gently, restore sinners, and guard the community from injustice; the text regulates church order, family life, sexual conduct, the roles of women and widows, almsgiving, and discipline, consistently stressing that authority exists for healing and salvation rather than punishment, and that Christian life replaces temple sacrifice with prayer, charity, and faithful endurance amid opposition.

It uses the word Catholic which means universal. There is no Mary worship in the text. It says Peter was buried in the Vatican

Chat GPT

In the first century, there was no “Vatican” as an institution and no St. Peter’s Basilica. The area now called the Vatican was simply Vatican Hill (Mons Vaticanus)—a low hill outside Rome’s sacred boundary (pomerium) on the west bank of the Tiber. It was largely non-urban, used for gardens, cemeteries (necropolis), and imperial leisure. Under Caligula and Nero, a large chariot-racing stadium—the Circus of Nero (or Circus of Caligula)—stood there. According to early Christian memory, Nero executed Christians in this area, and Peter was martyred nearby, traditionally buried in the adjacent necropolis. That grave became the focal point for later veneration, which—centuries later—led Constantine to build the first basilica over it (4th century).

Summary: In the first century, the “Vatican” was a geographic location tied to imperial Rome and early Christian martyrdom, not a church state or headquarters; its later significance grew because of Peter’s burial, not because it already held authority.
This is not part of the canon of Scripture, so whatever merits it may have, even however 'inspired' it may be, it does not belong in a Bible.

As to your ChatGPT, well, ai;dr
 
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This is not part of the canon of Scripture, so whatever merits it may have, even however 'inspired' it may be, it does not belong in a Bible.

As to your ChatGPT, well, ai;dr
I never said it is in the canon. I said it is inspired. You reject inspired scripture because it is not in the protestant canon. The text is not for you. It is for wise mature Christians only. Mathew 7:6
“Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
 
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I never said it is in the canon. I said it is inspired. You reject inspired scripture because it is not in the protestant canon. The text is not for you. It is for wise mature Christians only. Mathew 7:6
“Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
I do not follow a Protestant canon.
 
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This text internally is written by the apostles in Jerusalem. It contains phrases like I Peter, me Peter, I Mathew , we apostles.
Epiphanius Salamis 300s AD said it was written by the apostles like it said. So I believe it was written pre 70 AD, and is inspired scripture. It is a lot like the Didache which also internally dates to before 70 AD but Didascalia is a lot longer. It is on audiobook here


Here is chat GPT summary of the teachings of the text

The Didascalia Apostolorum presents itself as apostolic instruction, spoken in the collective voice of the apostles with Peter as chief spokesman, addressing how Christian communities are to live faithfully before God; it teaches that believers are no longer bound to the ritual requirements of the Mosaic Law, emphasizing instead moral obedience, repentance, mercy, and care for the poor, while portraying the bishop as a shepherd and physician who must govern gently, restore sinners, and guard the community from injustice; the text regulates church order, family life, sexual conduct, the roles of women and widows, almsgiving, and discipline, consistently stressing that authority exists for healing and salvation rather than punishment, and that Christian life replaces temple sacrifice with prayer, charity, and faithful endurance amid opposition.

It uses the word Catholic which means universal. There is no Mary worship in the text. It says Peter was buried in the Vatican

Chat GPT

In the first century, there was no “Vatican” as an institution and no St. Peter’s Basilica. The area now called the Vatican was simply Vatican Hill (Mons Vaticanus)—a low hill outside Rome’s sacred boundary (pomerium) on the west bank of the Tiber. It was largely non-urban, used for gardens, cemeteries (necropolis), and imperial leisure. Under Caligula and Nero, a large chariot-racing stadium—the Circus of Nero (or Circus of Caligula)—stood there. According to early Christian memory, Nero executed Christians in this area, and Peter was martyred nearby, traditionally buried in the adjacent necropolis. That grave became the focal point for later veneration, which—centuries later—led Constantine to build the first basilica over it (4th century).

Summary: In the first century, the “Vatican” was a geographic location tied to imperial Rome and early Christian martyrdom, not a church state or headquarters; its later significance grew because of Peter’s burial, not because it already held authority.

It keeps referencing and promoting the law of moses, it's from man, not The Holy Spirit.

It's not uncommon to find false writings like this claiming to be from the apostles. There are quite a few from that period of time.
 
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It keeps referencing and promoting the law of moses, it's from man, not The Holy Spirit.

It's not uncommon to find false writings like this claiming to be from the apostles. There are quite a few from that period of time.
Show the verses you are talking about? What proof do you have the internal date, and claim of authorship is a lie? Have you seen the autograph? I believe it was written when it said it was by whom it said it was. What proof do you have I am wrong?
 
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Show the verses you are talking about? What proof do you have the internal date, and claim of authorship is a lie? Have you seen the autograph? I believe it was written when it said it was by whom it said it was. What proof do you have I am wrong?

I'm pointing out that the texts are wrong,......not really trying to make you out to be wrong in front of folks.

I just listened to it till The Holy Spirit pointed out it out being wrong. That's what He does at times.

I'm not here to argue about this, I think you have some very good insights at times, but we all have to be careful of distractions in our walk with Jesus, and that is what I consider this, a distraction from the truth.
 
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It keeps referencing and promoting the law of moses, it's from man, not The Holy Spirit.
Way to let everyone know you didn't actually read the document.

"Yet when thou readest the Law, beware of the Second Legislation, that thou do but read it merely; but the commands and warnings that are therein much avoid, lest thou lead thyself astray and bind thyself with the bonds which may not be loosed of heavy burdens. For this cause therefore, if thou read the Second Legislation, consider this alone, that thou know and glorify God who delivered us from all these bonds."

I just listened to it till The Holy Spirit pointed out it out being wrong. That's what He does at times.

The Holy Spirit lied to you that the Didascalia Apostolorum teaches the Mosaic Law? I think not.
 
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Way to let everyone know you didn't actually read the document.

"Yet when thou readest the Law, beware of the Second Legislation, that thou do but read it merely; but the commands and warnings that are therein much avoid, lest thou lead thyself astray and bind thyself with the bonds which may not be loosed of heavy burdens. For this cause therefore, if thou read the Second Legislation, consider this alone, that thou know and glorify God who delivered us from all these bonds."



The Holy Spirit lied to you that the Didascalia Apostolorum teaches the Mosaic Law? I think not.

Sorry, it's just a bunch of thrown together stuff. I don't have to listen to the whole text to know better. It only took me less than 5 mins on that.
 
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I don't have to listen to the whole text to know better.
You don't have to listen to the whole text, just glance at more than the first couple of sentences. You only have to read to paragraph 3 to see that he says Christians aren't under the Law, and paragraph 6 to get to the part I quoted.
It only took me less than 5 mins on that.
I would've been surprised if you had spent any longer on it and still been so wrong. What's more surprising is that you came away from that fully convinced that God Himself told you it was wrong because it promotes the Law, when in fact it is very explicit that Christians aren't under the Law. I would hope that that would give you pause about whether it was really the Holy Spirit you were listening to.
 
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You don't have to listen to the whole text, just glance at more than the first couple of sentences. You only have to read to paragraph 3 to see that he says Christians aren't under the Law, and paragraph 6 to get to the part I quoted.
I would've been surprised if you had spent any longer on it and still been so wrong. What's more surprising is that you came away from that fully convinced that God Himself told you it was wrong because it promotes the Law, when in fact it is very explicit that Christians aren't under the Law. I would hope that that would give you pause about whether it was really the Holy Spirit you were listening to.

Sorry but not sorry. There's a reason why we have a certain amount of books in canon,.... because books like this that lay claim to being from the apostles are forgeries.

Go argue with someone else.
 
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There's a reason why we have a certain amount of books in canon,.... because books like this that lay claim to being from the apostles are forgeries.
Please don't misunderstand my pointing out your fundamental error as support for the OP's esoteric view of what should be considered Scripture.
 
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Please don't misunderstand my pointing out your fundamental error as support for the OP's esoteric view of what should be considered Scripture.

Like I said, go argue with someone else. The Holy Spirit is right, it's a forgery.
 
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This document makes no claim to be inspired scripture. It is meant as a guidebook for a functioning church community. In ancient times scrolls were hard to maintain, many communities didn’t have all of them, some scriptures were debated etc. in America today probably most people can buy a Bible at Dollar Tree stores for a little over $1. We have to understand what people have had to work & deal with in different times and places.
 
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I believe it was written when it said it was by whom it said it was.
To clarify, it doesn't actually claim apostolic authorship itself, does it? It only claims to contain the teaching of the Apostles. I'll freely admit I haven't read the entirety of it, but I've read substantial portions and haven't found an actual claim of apostolic authorship.

The Holy Spirit is right, it's a forgery.
Same question to you, does it actually claim apostolic authorship? If so, where? If not, why don't you stop spreading falsehoods about early Christian writings?
 
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