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[Strong in Him]

Try giving me an answer instead of rolling your eyes.

I know the phrase, "sorry, I made a mistake" is hard - but give it a go.

 

[Apple Sky]

I know the phrase, "sorry, I made a mistake" is hard - but give it a go.

What just because I didn't say ' I don't believe that anyone has been to moon', I've made no mistake & have nothing to be sorry for.

 

[Strong in Him]

What just because I didn't say ' I don't believe that anyone has been to moon', I've made no mistake & have nothing to be sorry for.

No!
Because in a discussion about whether or not the astronauts were Freemasons, you found an AI overview which included the information that the 6th man who walked on the moon was a Freemason.
You qere showing us " evidence " that the astronaut who walked on the moon was a Freemason - but you don't believe anyone walked on the moon.

If I said, " I am sure that the cow who jumped over the moon, was brown. I've seen a picture where it was black and white, but that's wrong." I'm quite sure you'd read that and think, "she's lost the plot. No cow has ever jumped over the moon." You wouldn't even try to look it up; it didn't happen.

You have a similar belief about the men who walked ON the moon. So why were you trying to show that they were Freemasons when, in your mind, it never happened?

 

[Kathleen30]

But she still quoted it.
She obviously went to the trouble of looking up how many astronauts were Freemasons and quoting/cutting and pasting the AI overview.
If she disagreed with something which she, herself, had chosen to post, then that could have been made clear as well.

If a person doesn't believe that any astronauts went to the moon, it's irrelevant whether they were Freemasons or not.
Charles Duke, and others, became Christians after they had been to the moon - @Apple Sky still thinks they were lying.

Freemasons can belong to any organisation or be found in any walk of life.
There are probably Christians among the 17,000+ people who work for NASA - it is not exclusively a Freemason organisation.

Maybe in that particular post. But in other posts, Apple Sky has repeatedly said that the astronauts who claimed to have gone to the moon were all Freemasons - implying that they can't be trusted. "Freemasons to the core" was one phrase I believe she used.

So, again, why quote an AI overview which specifically says that these astronauts who walked on the moon were Freemasons?
I don't believe the Loch ness monster exists, so why would I go to the effort of researching what it eats?
I don't believe the legend that Jesus visited England and went to Glastonbury, so why would I try to find out where he lived or what he did while he was here?
Do you see what I mean? If something didn't happen, details are irrelevant.

No, I didn't miss it.
It doesn't matter whether the words about the 6th man to walk on the moon were Apple Sky's own words or the words of AI - she quoted them.

She should have just said; "Freemasons or not; no one has ever walked on the moon".

No misunderstanding at all on my part - she looked for evidence of something that she doesn't believe happened.

If someone said to me, "and what were you wearing when you beat your husband?" I'm not going to wrack my brains to try to remember, or look on Facebook/Instagram to see if I can find evidence. I have never beaten my husband, so it's irrelevant, and a ridiculous question.

Strong in him you say she still quoted it . That’s right and she had every right to quote it in the perspective of what she was trying to explain . Apple makes it abundantly clear she is referring to the NASA - Masonic connection and in no ways says she agrees with astronauts landing on the moon . And you clearly know her position that being she believes no one has landed on the moon. And it begs the question why you have chosen to make a mountain out of mole hill.

You than say if a person doesn’t believe the astronauts never went to the moon. You say it’s irrelevant to whether they’re freemasons or not ? How does that make the philosophy or beliefs of masonry any less lethal. It doesn't. Your argument makes no sense . Apple certainly is not playing down the dangers of masonry just because they didn’t go to the moon . Far from it You than say masons can be found in any organisation or walk of life . Stronginhim that’s right and they still be just as lethal in their influence of those organisations too. You say some 17000 peoples work for nasa and they not be exclusively Freemasons. Stronginhim since when has freemasonry been exclusively Freemason when it comes to the entirety of the work force ? It hasn’t. They rely on their secrecy money and influence not numbers. What is your point ? I not follow your reasoning

Well its nice to know that maybe you might be wrong instead of demanding a apology like you and others have demanded in other posts. I don’t hear Sweet Apple demanding a apology from you all . Maybe that’s the difference between Law and Grace. Love ❤️ does not seek to accuse nor demand.

But as I read on. Yu say Yu didn’t miss anything and it doesn't matter whether it was a AI reference or personally written by Apple that claimed that man walked on moon . You Couldn’t More WRONG in what yu say. It makes the world of difference once you realise it’s AI overview references talking about the influence of masonry and mentioning the moon landings.also and you mistakenly or perhaps conveniently leave the sub heading AI OVERVIEW reference out of your post 2839 and than accuse Apple of contradicting herself about the moon landings of which she has never believed. AND YOU KNOW THAT .. but you want to go on with the accusation. That Apple agrees with the entire AI statement and therefore must apologise to you all when you fully know that Apple doesn't believe Astronauts landed on the moon.. her whole intention was merely to show the NASA - Masonic connection . Nothing more . Yet you continue to want to make a mountain out of Mole hill.

 

[Apple Sky]

No cow has ever jumped over the moon."

Oh really!

 

[Apple Sky]

Yet you continue to want to make a mountain out of Mole hill.

Yes - I don't understand why she is doing this

 

[prodromos]

Yes - I don't understand why she is doing this

 

[Kathleen30]

The problem still stands. If you don't believe the AI overview is factual regarding moon landings, how can you trust it to be factual about freemason involvement in NASA?

Prodromus I sometimes I use sources like wiki doesn’t mean I agree with everything in the source they wrote it’s a matter of the discernment of what one chooses to be truth and and not truth AI overview be in the same category .

 

[Strong in Him]

Yes - I don't understand why she is doing this

What? Try to understand what you wrote?
You're right - why do I bother to do that? It's not as though it's important.

 

[prodromos]

Prodromus I sometimes I use sources like wiki doesn’t mean I agree with everything in the source they wrote it’s a matter of the discernment of what one chooses to be truth and and not truth AI overview be in the same category .

Then only quote what you agree with.

 

[Apple Sky]

What? Try to understand what you wrote?

My posts are not that hard to understand.

 

[Kathleen30]

Then only quote what you agree with.

Then Apple would probably be accused of not presenting a truthful account of the source : ) best leave in its original format

 

[prodromos]

Then Apple would probably be accused of not presenting a truthful account of the source : ) best leave in its original format

Do you have any reason to believe we would do that based on past interactions on this forum? You are not giving us enough credit and are giving far too much to Apple Sky.

 

[Kathleen30]

What just because I didn't say ' I don't believe that anyone has been to moon', I've made no mistake & have nothing to be sorry for.

And you’ve said often in previous posts you don’t believe in the moon landings but now seems a simple reference AI post that mentions the moon landing whilst you were only pointing out the influence of masonry upon NASA means that according to some that that you have some how contradicted your self . Some funny . We've had , Russia gate . And now we have Mole gate : )

 

[Apple Sky]

We've had , Russia gate . And now we have Mole gate : )

 

[Kathleen30]

We

Do you have any reason to believe we would do that based on past interactions on this forum? You are not giving us enough credit and are giving far too much to Apple Sky.

Well with all the accusations leveled at Apple in allegedly contreadicting herself in the AI overview post which was never the case and knowing what Apple believes she was merely showing the influences of freemasonry upon NASA. Didn’t mean she believed everything in the reference post . More so when we all know that she doesn't‘ believe in the moon landing. Yes I do from the AI post . And I say again from which some have made a mountain out of a mole hill . That is all

 

[Strong in Him]

Yet you continue to want to make a mountain out of Mole hill.

So you've written a long post - complete with pink oblongs - to explain why I am making a mountain out of a molehill?
As Apple Sky would say,

I'll answer your post in detail if you like, but it would only be prolonging the, rather circular, discussion.

 

[Apple Sky]

So you've written a long post - complete with pink oblongs - to explain why I am making a mountain out of a molehill?

So why were you making such a big deal out of it ?

Was it to get at me or score some more brownie points ?

 

[Strong in Him]

So why were you making such a big deal out of it ?

That post was directed to @Kathleen30 , not you.

Was it to get at me or score some more brownie points ?

i) why should I want to get at you?
ii) what are "brownie points", who's giving them to me and how do they benefit me in any way whatsoever?

@David Lamb asked you for your evidence that NASA are 33 degree masons, post 2,833.
You replied, "it depends who they are" and gave an AI overview of astronauts who were Freemasons, post #2,835. One of the statements in that AI overview said that Edgar Mitchell was the sixth man to walk on the moon.
I then pointed out that you had given details of an astronaut who walked on the moon and was a Freemason - but you don't believe that anyone walked on the moon, post 2,389.
For one thing, this is ridiculous in itself - as I said, if men haven't walked on the moon who cares what their beliefs are?
For another thing, you talked about exposing them for what they were, I said, "you mean, men who have walked on the moon?" and you replied - "of course."

You've written unclear and conflicting statements, yet when I tried to explain what you had done, it was my fault.

Next time I won't bother - I'll leave you to look ridiculous.

 

[Kathleen30]

So you've written a long post - complete with pink oblongs - to explain why I am making a mountain out of a molehill?
As Apple Sky would say,

I'll answer your post in detail if you like, but it would only be prolonging the, rather circular, discussion.

Well actually this should have all ended in my post 2869 once it was pointed out that this was a AI overview that Apple used to show her overall viewpoint of the connection between masonry and NASA. It in no way means that Apple agreed with the alleged moon landing even if mentioned in the Ai overview. And it should have been obvious to all that she wasn’t implying that she now believed that men walked on the moon simply because the AI post said . We are all aware of what Apple believes on the moon landings. You say so I’ve written a long post . I guess when you doubled down with your rather longish reply to me in your post 2871 of which you continued to accuse Apple. Even more so after l had clearly shown you that it was clearly a AI overview and not in complete agreement with Apples thoughts. Guess I had no choice but to send you a rather long letter back in reply back. . It be yu that continues to make a mountain out of a mole hill . Not me. IAs to my pink oblongs. I like pink : ) Stonginhim no need for a more detailed reply I have already ascertained that there has simply been a big misunderstanding on the whole matter and that Apple should never have been accused of what has been claimed.