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It is based under the hole of the North Pole it rays shine forth to give us our moon phases & eclipses.
It's more intricate than this.

This is the sign for the Black Sun.

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It signifies a hidden or inverted source of energy, a buried star that represents an inward-turning power or a secret foundation of existence.
The Black Sun is reference to certain eclipses.
Your sign for the black sun is a Nazi symbol:

"The Black Sun (German: Schwarze Sonne) is a type of sun wheel (German: Sonnenrad) symbol originating in Nazi Germany and later employed by neo-Nazis and other far-right individuals and groups. The symbol's design consists of twelve radial sig runes similar to those that made up the SS logo. It first appeared in Nazi Germany as a design element in a castle at Wewelsburg remodeled and expanded by the head of the SS, Heinrich Himmler, which he intended to be a center for the SS. The symbol appeared nowhere else in Nazi Germany."

So you have posted links to a Freemason video, a book of unbiblical legends, and now a symbol of the Nazis to support your beliefs. It does rather cause your accusations that those of us who believe the earth to be a globe don't believe God's word to sound rather hollow.
 
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What hole in the North Pole?

This hole.

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There is a magnetic hole at the center of the earth which bares the black magnetic rock (Rupes Nigra) as we have discussed earlier.
 
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"The Black Sun (German: Schwarze Sonne) is a type of sun wheel (German: Sonnenrad) symbol originating in Nazi Germany and later employed by neo-Nazis and other far-right individuals and groups.

I know, Hitler stole this symbol from it's original meaning.

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Stonginhim you write : ( the Bible is the final authority in matters of faith: Christian doctrine, Gods Will and plan etc. ) that’s right . And there be no problem with that or with the many professions that are sought in life . The whole issue here is when those professions are used to override what the bible teaches or claim the Bible is wrong and must be reinterpreted another way. That be the issue between me and you and that is the issue at hand . Ok let’s take the claim of the earth being billions of years old that many men of science claim . It be in direct conflict with the Bible and what came forth of this monstrous claim .
Thank you for your reply.
I will try and answer the rest of your post later, but my answer to this is, no, science is not in direct conflict with the Bible.

Genesis 1 says that in 6 days God made heaven and earth. The dispute has always been over "what is a day?"
Some people take that to be literal - 6 days of 24 hours; 72 hours in total. For me, that raises several questions:
i) what took him so long? God is God, he can heal, restore and create instantly. He could bring the whole universe into being in a moment. Why did the author of Genesis say that he split it into 6 "days"? Why did God create things separately - stars before trees, for example? Why did he create the sky on the 2nd day but only create birds on the 5th day? Why did he create 2 things - dry land and sea, which he said were good, and all vegetation and seed bearing plants, which he also said were good - on the third day?
ii) God is outside time. Peter said that with the Lord, a day is AS 1,000 years (a verse which is often misquoted.) What may seem like a day to God could be 1,000 or even, thousands of, years to us.
iii) I read an article once which said that scientists are coming to believe that the universe was created in the same order that is described in Genesis. IOW, first of all, there was light, then water, then dry ground, trees etc, then animals etc etc.

So it is perfectly possible that a "day" in Genesis 1 could be a period of time - maybe 1,000 years, maybe longer.
Only people who take the whole of the Bible to be literal will argue that 1 day = 24 hours. From that, they conclude that scientists are wrong, or lying. This, sometimes, leads to ridiculous conclusions like "the devil is using science to trick us", or "God put fossils on the earth to test our faith". Both of which I have heard Christians saying.

The purpose of Genesis 1 is to show WHO created the universe - God. It tells us what he thought of his creation - good, or very good. And the implication is that God created for a reason. Most people have reasons for doing things - the implication is that God created because he wanted to.
THAT is what Genesis 1 is about and that is what scientists cannot answer. They have no reason for creation - other than maybe a few atoms collided and somehow produced everything.

And there are many scientists who are Christians, and believe Genesis 1 and also what they know to be true as a result of their studies.
God created - end of.
 
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You can clear see the rugged edge on all photos except solar eclipses.
That’s because the light of the Sun can’t reflect of the side facing the Earth.

Do you not know how shadow works?
 
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This hole.

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There is a magnetic hole at the center of the earth which bares the black magnetic rock (Rupes Nigra) as we have discussed earlier.
Where is your evidence for the existence of a black magnetic rock called Rupes Nigra, a magnetic hole at the North pole (I don't see any hole on your map) or the black sun? What about a photo of the hole or of Rupes Nigra? A search for "Rupes Nigra" brought up this overview:

"Rupes Nigra (Latin for "Black Rock") is a mythical, massive magnetic rock believed to exist at the North Pole, featured on 16th and 17th-century Arctic maps, notably by Gerardus Mercator, to explain why compasses point north. This legendary island, described as bare, glistening, and incredibly magnetic, was thought to draw ships towards the pole, originating from accounts in the lost work Inventio Fortunata. While a fascinating piece of cartographic history, it's a myth, with Earth's magnetic field actually generated by processes deep within the core." (my emphasis)
 
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I know, Hitler stole this symbol from it's original meaning.

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Whether the symbol originated with the Nazis, Hindus, Jainists, Buddhists, or pre-Christian people in Europe, I fail to see its relevance on a Christian forum, or why you posted it.
 
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Whether the symbol originated with the Nazis, Hindus, Jainists, Buddhists, or pre-Christian people in Europe, I fail to see its relevance on a Christian forum, or why you posted it.

GREATER WORLD MAP And MACROCLIMATE CHANGE (AEWAR, VIBES OF COSMOS
 
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Thank you for your reply.
I will try and answer the rest of your post later, but my answer to this is, no, science is not in direct conflict with the Bible.

Genesis 1 says that in 6 days God made heaven and earth. The dispute has always been over "what is a day?"
Some people take that to be literal - 6 days of 24 hours; 72 hours in total. For me, that raises several questions:
i) what took him so long? God is God, he can heal, restore and create instantly. He could bring the whole universe into being in a moment. Why did the author of Genesis say that he split it into 6 "days"? Why did God create things separately - stars before trees, for example? Why did he create the sky on the 2nd day but only create birds on the 5th day? Why did he create 2 things - dry land and sea, which he said were good, and all vegetation and seed bearing plants, which he also said were good - on the third day?
ii) God is outside time. Peter said that with the Lord, a day is AS 1,000 years (a verse which is often misquoted.) What may seem like a day to God could be 1,000 or even, thousands of, years to us.
iii) I read an article once which said that scientists are coming to believe that the universe was created in the same order that is described in Genesis. IOW, first of all, there was light, then water, then dry ground, trees etc, then animals etc etc.

So it is perfectly possible that a "day" in Genesis 1 could be a period of time - maybe 1,000 years, maybe longer.
Only people who take the whole of the Bible to be literal will argue that 1 day = 24 hours. From that, they conclude that scientists are wrong, or lying. This, sometimes, leads to ridiculous conclusions like "the devil is using science to trick us", or "God put fossils on the earth to test our faith". Both of which I have heard Christians saying.

The purpose of Genesis 1 is to show WHO created the universe - God. It tells us what he thought of his creation - good, or very good. And the implication is that God created for a reason. Most people have reasons for doing things - the implication is that God created because he wanted to.
THAT is what Genesis 1 is about and that is what scientists cannot answer. They have no reason for creation - other than maybe a few atoms collided and somehow produced everything.

And there are many scientists who are Christians, and believe Genesis 1 and also what they know to be true as a result of their studies.
God created - end of.
Stronginhim wiliest it is true a thousand years can be referring to a long period of time 500 yrs a 1000 yrs 2000 yrs etc as with other passages where a thousand years is mentioned. In the context of 2nd Peter3;8 it seems to be an admonishment to believers to stand firm in their faith from scoffers who question the Lords return. Meaning that with the Lord a day is thousand years and a thousand years a day . And that God has unlimited time to fulfill his plan.
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So can we use use the verse of 2nd Peter of a day meaning a long period of time like thousands or millions of years in the Genesis acount of 6 days of creation. Probably not because it has no bearing or reference to Genesis
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.And there be others reasons why the 6 days of creation cannot be taken as millions or billions of years. Because God in his providence it seems has put 2 gigantic marble columns with their foundation set in cement by each day to stipulate what he meant . It goes something like this ( day one And the evening and the morning day 2 And the evening and the morning day 3 and the evening and the morning day 4 and the evening and the morning day 5 and the evening and the morning day 6 and the evening and morning. ) the text is clearly talking about 24 hour days. I do say perhaps scientist’s at least the ones who claim to be Christians should maybe question that there is something wrong with their dating methods and that the Bible says exactly what it says and that the science that is do confidently promoted is absolutely wrong and not the Bible
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You did mention in your previous reply about why scientists are not trusted by the public . I did look into that some . In one survey I found. The pew research centre it gives a 51 percent figure for scientists who believe in God or a divine force or power. The other 49 percent being atheists. For the everyday community it was a 95 percent belief in some form of God and 5 percent atheist. The survey is rather old 2006. But I did find a more up to date surveys from 2020 onward the IERE org ( what percent believe in God ) it pretty well says much the same just not with stats that everyday people seem to believe in God in higher percentage wise than scientists. Maybe that is part of the mistrust of the scientific community. I do not fully know. And maybe after all the COVID lies where people had to endure losing their freedoms their jobs if they not take the jab and others being forced against their will and being thrown in jail if they so questioned the scientific line. All that and considering that 99.9 percent of people recovered with or without the jab . Stronginhim perhaps that’s another reason why people don’t have the reassurance of trust towards the scientific community as before. I’m just reading your thoughts on how slow was God in creating the world. Some funny : ) poor God no 7 days. You expect instantaneously
 
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Stronginhim wiliest it is true a thousand years can be referring to a long period of time 500 yrs a 1000 yrs 2000 yrs etc as with other passages where a thousand years is mentioned. In the context of 2nd Peter3;8 it seems to be an admonishment to believers to stand firm in their faith from scoffers who question the Lords return.
I know.
I only quoted it because some people believe that it is a) literal and b) applies here. They would say, and have said, that one day is equal to 1,000 years, therefore God created the whole universe over a period of 6,000 years.
I quoted it, also, because I wondered if you believed that.

So can we use use the verse of 2nd Peter of a day meaning a long period of time like thousands or millions of years in the Genesis acount of 6 days of creation. Probably not because it has no bearing or reference to Genesis.
If you are saying that the message of Genesis 1 is that God created - I agree.
But to some, it is vitally important to know whether he created in 6 days, 6,000 years or 6 undefined periods of time.
And there be others reasons why the 6 days of creation cannot be taken as millions or billions of years. Because God in his providence it seems has put 2 gigantic marble columns with their foundation set in cement by each day to stipulate what he meant .
I've no idea what you mean by that, sorry.
It goes something like this ( day one And the evening and the morning day 2 And the evening and the morning day 3 and the evening and the morning day 4 and the evening and the morning day 5 and the evening and the morning day 6 and the evening and morning. ) the text is clearly talking about 24 hour days.
No, it's not "clearly" talking about that at all.
Who's to say that the "evening" wasn't towards the end of a 5,000 year, or whatever, period and the "morning" wasn't the beginning of the next one? For example, end of the stone age, beginning of the bronze age? (Or whatever - I haven't researched it properly.)
Each of these "ages" could be one day, to God.
I do say perhaps scientist’s at least the ones who claim to be Christians should maybe question that there is something wrong with their dating methods and that the Bible says exactly what it says and that the science that is do confidently promoted is absolutely wrong and not the Bible
I do say that perhaps some people need to learn about Biblical interpretation, different genres of writing etc and realise that the Bible and science are not in competition with one another.
The Bible doesn't have to explain things scientifically - that is not its purpose.
You did mention in your previous reply about why scientists are not trusted by the public .
Did I? Where?
I’m just reading your thoughts on how slow was God in creating the world. Some funny : ) poor God no 7 days. You expect instantaneously.
No, I do not expect "instantaneously"
I made the point that God could, easily, have created the universe in a moment - he has that power. Then I asked the, quite reasonable question, why did he take 6 days to do it?
Whatever you believe a "day" to represent, it had a morning and an evening - a beginning and an end. (Except in Genesis it's the other way around.)
Why? Did God need to go to bed in between? Why take 6 periods of time to create something that he could have done in an instant? Why did God, and the author of Genesis, need to present the creation of the universe in 6 definite periods of time?
IS God limited that he could only do one thing at a time -"animals, you'll have to wait for day 6, I'm dealing with oak trees at the moment."? Surely not.
 
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And maybe after all the COVID lies where people had to endure losing their freedoms their jobs if they not take the jab and others being forced against their will and being thrown in jail if they so questioned the scientific line.

Exactly - And there are many WHO will never get or forget this. They even tried to tell us, 'It what Jesus would've wanted'.:mad:
 
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I do say that perhaps some people need to learn about Biblical interpretation, different genres of writing etc and realise that the Bible and science are not in competition with one another.

Except for NASA & Satan.
 
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The Micro & the Macro.

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The craftsman stretches out his rule, He marks one out with chalk; He fashions it with a plane, He marks it out with the compass, And makes it like the figure of a man, According to the beauty of a man, that it may remain in the house.


 
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