Ellen White on the mark of the beast for those that worship on Sunday

[SabbathBlessings]

How does one profess to believe Jesus but not His sayings (Teachings) enough to do them. Jesus asked this same question....

Luke 6:46 “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say? 47 Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: 48 He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently against that house, and could not shake it, for it was [j]founded on the rock. 49 But he who heard and did nothing is like a man who built a house on the earth without a foundation, against which the stream beat vehemently; and immediately it [k]fell. And the ruin of that house was great.”

Guess it will get sorted out soon enough.

 

[Hentenza]

How does one profess to believe Jesus but not His sayings (Teachings) enough to do them. Jesus asked this same question....

Luke 6:46 “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say? 47 Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: 48 He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently against that house, and could not shake it, for it was [j]founded on the rock. 49 But he who heard and did nothing is like a man who built a house on the earth without a foundation, against which the stream beat vehemently; and immediately it [k]fell. And the ruin of that house was great.”

Guess it will get sorted out soon enough.

The foundation is Jesus. Paul explains how our works are judged and the outcome. The foundation is the key.

“According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each person must be careful how he builds on it. For no one can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, each one’s work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each one’s work. If anyone’s work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet only so as through fire.”
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[SabbathBlessings]

The foundation is Jesus. Paul explains how our works are judged and the outcome. The foundation is the key.

“According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each person must be careful how he builds on it. For no one can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, each one’s work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each one’s work. If anyone’s work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet only so as through fire.”
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That's right and Jesus said If you love Me, keep My commandments John14:15

Jesus said to live by every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God Mat4:4

Jesus who is God, before He became flesh said, written by the Holy Spirit of Truth:

Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy, the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God , the holy day of the Lord Isa58:13 (never said this about any other day, but did say I am the Lord, I do not change Mal3:6 Heb13:8)

Building our house on the Word of God that comes with His power of Blessings Exo20:11 Isa59:2 and sanctification Gen2:3 Eze20:12 and His seal Exo20:11 Eze20:20 is building our house on Jesus John 1:1 because without His blessings and sanctification, we really are nothing Isa66:17 and no man can take away God's blessings or sanctification despite their objections to it, because they are not God.

God's Testimony Exo31:18 contained Ten Commandments Deut4:13 Exo34:28 and when we lay aside the commandment of God we make the Word of God of no effect Mat15:3-14 Mark7:7-13

God said Remember, man says forget. My Father wrote His Laws in my heart and by faith I am going to believe He did not forget the one commandment He said Remember, that He said is holy and comes with His blessings that man cannot reverse Num23:20.

We are saved by grace through faith, the grace part is how we are saved, the faith part which is though our actions proves if our faith is genuine or not. Anyone can say Lord Lord, I believe Jesus is looking for more, to do His good will Mat7:21-23 Psa40:8 not to be saved, but that's how someone who is saved lives Rev14:12 which reconciles Rev22:14


By the way this is Jesus speaking on how to build our foundation on Him. not sure why you went to Paul instead when all he said is we build our foundation on Jesus, but Jesus tells us how to do that plainly. It was never left upon us to define, God defines, like He does everything else if one allows Him to.

Luke 6:46 “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say? 47 Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: 48 He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently against that house, and could not shake it, for it was [j]founded on the rock. 49 But he who heard and did nothing is like a man who built a house on the earth without a foundation, against which the stream beat vehemently; and immediately it [k]fell. And the ruin of that house was great.”

Guess we shall all find out soon enough. Time for me to move along.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Jesus saves so we can worship someone else and murder our brother? The wages of sin is death Rom6:23 the Ten Commandments is the ministry of death because its sin when we break and deserve the death penalty. If we are under the ministry of Christ (and only He knows who truly is) than we would be keeping the commandments through Him John14:15-18 John15:10 1John2:6 not breaking them, those that do, without trying to turn from Pro 28:13 John3:19-21 Heb10:26-30 are not in Him Rom8:7-8 1John2:4 Mat7:23

The Law of God was never the issue its perfect Psa19:7, holy, just and good Rom7:12 written by the Holy Spirit, the issue is mans heart.

The summary of the two commandments, love God with all our heart and love our neighbor is the Ten Commandments Deut6:1-5 Rom13:9 God defines love to Him Exo20:6 John14:15 1 John5:2-3 its not based on our feelings, its really an action of faith.

 

[Hentenza]

That's right and Jesus said If you love Me, keep My commandments John14:15

So you agree with Paul that even those whose works burned up are still saved right? And, if course, “MY” commandments are Jesus two commandments that the believer keeps from salvation and partnership with the Holy Spirit for the sanctification process.

Salvation is BY the free grace of God through faith in the Son. Not by works. No one can work for God’s free grace otherwise grace would not be free.

Jesus said to live by every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God Mat4:4

Yep. So now you are adding that to what is required for salvation. Once again, salvation by faith plus works.

Jesus who is God, before He became flesh said, written by the Holy Spirit of Truth:

Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy, the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God , the holy day of the Lord Isa58:13 (never said this about any other day, but did say I am the Lord, I do not change Mal3:6 Heb13:8)

So the sabbath is also required for salvation. Mmmm you only give lip service to salvation by faith. You pitch salvation by faith plus works. Your church’s statement about salvation by faith is a lie.

Building our house on the Word of God

That is not what it says. The foundation is in Christ and the works are the ones prepared in advance for the believer to do (Eph. 2). The rest of your post is your usual blah, blah that I’ve addressed hundreds of times.

I asked you a question in a previous post that you ignored. In your sectarian views, is not keeping the dietary laws a sin?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Y

You are dead in your sins because you put yourself under the Ten Commandments that are unalterable and do not provide life. The Ten Commandments are the old covenant that condemns everyone to death. You cannot see this, your mind has been seared with a hot iron. You can’t keep the Ten Commandments, no one can and this is why all have sinned. True Christians are saved from the condemnation of the Ten Commandments and have been bought out of the old covenant and are now in the new covenant. You are in the old covenant and have yet to understand the new covenant. Hentenza can deal with you because I am done with you.

I love Jesus and He said if you love Me keep My commandments John14:15 Exxo20:6

I see your words in your posts, Jesus tells us to live by His words Mat4:4

Be well

 

[Hentenza]

I love Jesus and He said if you love Me keep My commandments John14:15 Exxo20:6

I see your words in your posts, Jesus tells us to live by His words Mat4:4

Be well

Historical Context for Exodus 20:6:

““I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.”
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The audience and the peoples being addressed here is Israel. At no point in these verses is God speaking to the gentiles or the church. Another reading your pet doctrine into verses. This one is called appropriating a verse outside of context.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Historical Context for Exodus 20:6:

““I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.”
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The audience and the peoples being addressed here is Israel. At no point in these verses is God speaking to the gentiles or the church. Another reading your pet doctrine into verses. This one is called appropriating a verse outside of context.

Its an allegory of He being our deliver of bondage (sin), why the NT draws on this experience Heb3:7-19, which is what Jesus is drawing us out from sin Mat1:21 and the whole wilderness experience was an example for us on what not to do why many never entered into their promised land of rest Eze20:15-16 and why we are told not to follow in the same path of disobedience Heb4:11 to enter into ours Rev22:14

Jesus already addressed the Gentile church in His own Words

Bible Gateway passage: Isaiah 56 - New King James Version

Salvation for the Gentiles - Thus says the Lord: “Keep justice, and do righteousness, For My salvation is about to come, And My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, And the son of man who lays hold on it; Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, And keeps his hand from...

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Its the same Lord your God because God does not change.

 

[Hentenza]

Its an allegory of He being our deliver of bondage (sin), why the NT draws on this experience Heb3:7-19, which is what Jesus is drawing us out from sin Mat1:21 and the whole wilderness experience was an example for us on what not to do why many never entered into their promised land of rest Eze20:15-16 and why we are told not to follow in the same path of disobedience Heb4:11 to enter into ours Rev22:14

Jesus already addressed the Gentile church in His own Words

Bible Gateway passage: Isaiah 56 - New King James Version

Salvation for the Gentiles - Thus says the Lord: “Keep justice, and do righteousness, For My salvation is about to come, And My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, And the son of man who lays hold on it; Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, And keeps his hand from...

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Its the same Lord your God because God does not change.

The only way that the son of the foreigner or the foreigners themselves to join themselves to the Lord was to convert to Judaism during those times. Scripture talks plenty about the gentiles dwelling with Israel. They do not constitute the gentiles collectively nor does it refer to the church that Jesus founded. Again, you are reading your pet doctrine into scripture.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The only way that the son of the foreigner or the foreigners themselves to join themselves to the Lord was to convert to Judaism during those times. Scripture talks plenty about the gentiles dwelling with Israel. They do not constitute the gentiles collectively nor does it refer to the church that Jesus founded.

That's not what God said plainly but we are free to disregard any part of thus saith the Lord we don't agree with. I didn't read anything into this passage, I posted it in its entirety without adding anything to it, I do not have to add to His words, He was plain and we are told not to Pro30:6. What Jesus didn't say in this passage that was added to the word of God is:

the foreigners themselves to join themselves to the Lord was to convert to Judaism

Is typically the accusers are the ones doing what they accuse others of.

Again, you are reading your pet doctrine into scripture.

This is what God said

56:1 Thus says the Lord:

Isa 56:6 “Also the sons of the foreigner
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant—
7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain,
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices
Will be accepted on My altar;
For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.”

Jesus quoted from this very passage Mat21:13 and what Jesus says always comes true- why the whole city (all nations) both Jews and Gentiles gathered in His house together to hear the word of God. Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 18:4 and His house of prayer continues for eternity for all nations ( all flesh) for His saints Isa66:22-23

 

[Studyman]

No one has rewritten God’s commandment.

The RCC itself "Claims" to have re-written the commandment through the Authority they claim was given to them by the Lord's Christ, to change God's Sabbath as was defined in the Holy Scriptures as being the 7th Day of the week, Saturday as described at creation which the Commandment of God Himself referenced, to the first day of the week, Sunday, the Catholic sabbath.

This is the issue EGW had as defined in the very website you posted. EGW didn't teach that men who worshipped God on Sunday were of the devil. Your post taught that, but EGW didn't.

It was never about what days of the week to worship God, as EGW, Wesley, Calvin, and all reformers promoted worship of God every day of the week. I was always about God's sabbath VS, the RCC Sabbath, 7th day vs. 1st day.

If you can find in the website you posted where EGW says worshipping God on Sunday makes a man receive the mark of the beast, please show me. I know Jesus obeyed God's commandments, and worshipped God every day, even Sunday. I find no evidence that EGW taught Jesus was of the devil, for worshipping God on Sunday. But I could be wrong, so if you can find such a teaching, please provide it.

And if you can't, then shouldn't you clarify your teaching here?

1.Gods (Ten Commandments including the) 4th commandment was given (BY GOD) to Israel during Moses time (15th century BCE) and (God Inspired) Moses wrote to write the 5 books of the Torah which includes the 10 commandments.

They also include God's Laws given to Moses in Lev, 19 17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. 18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

2. The law was given to Israel and to those that dwelled with them. The law was never given to the gentiles or to the church.

That is what the RCC taught, and many reformers adopted many of her philosophies. But there are some who believe we should obey God, like Jesus and Peter and James and Paul and Moses and Abraham and David and Zacharias and Simeon and Shadrack and Danial, and actually EVERY EXAMPLE of Faithful men given us from Abel to the Cornelius.

According to what is actually written in the Word of God who became Flesh, God has One Law:

Ex. 12: 49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Eph. 4: 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

God's Church has always been, and will always be those who "Yield themselves" servants to obey Him, Jew or Gentile as Paul teaches. In fact, John actually tells me how to know if I am in His Church, or just some random religion who calls Jesus Lord, Lord.

1 John 2: 3 And hereby we do know that we know him, "if we keep" his commandments.

The teaching that God's Law is always for someone else, is a popular deception promoted by preachers "who profess to know God", since the garden of Eden. I was also placed in a world in which these same voices, promoting the same disobedience exists. And Jesus Specifical warned about these "Many", who come in His Name.

I advocate therefore, that men "Take heed" they are not deceived by such a philosophy as Eve was, even if the voices promoting it "Comes on Christ's Name".

3. The gentiles were never under the law (Acts 15).

I have heard this preaching before, but when I actually read what is actually written, I find that it isn't true.

Acts 15: 19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:

20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, (Law of Moses) and from fornication, (Law of Moses) and from things strangled,(Law of Moses) and from blood. (Law of Moses)

21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

This is the same exact teaching that Jesus Himself, taught the multitude and His Disciples in Matt. 23.

Matt. 23: 1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

It makes perfect sense that the Apostles would direct the Gentiles to follow the exact same teaching Jesus instructed, before HE was murdered. Alas, "many" who call Jesus Lord, Lord, don't want to listen to Moses or the Prophets God sent, even though Jesus Himself and His Chosen Apostles directed them to. Jesus also spoke to this, which sheds light on why folks don't believe Jesus in this matter.

Luke 16: 31 And he said unto him, If they "hear not" Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though "one" rose from the dead.

4. No one kept the 4th commandment prior to Moses. There is no record in scripture.

There is no record of anyone Loving the Lord their God with all their soul and all their might either. There is no record of anyone Loving their neighbor as they Loved themselves. But it would be stupid to claim God didn't have ANY Laws simply because there is no record of Him giving them. When did God give Noah His Laws concerning what animals are clean for food and what animals are not? And yet Noah knew God's Laws concerning His Judgments concerning Clean and unclean animals.

When did God give Noah's sons His Law concerning "looking on the nakedness of their father"? Yet they all knew the Law, even though one of the sons rejected it.

When did God give His Laws that Sodom broke, or His adultery Commandment that Amalek most certainly new about, along with the wages of breaking this Commandment of God? And yet Amalek knew of God and His Commandment against adultery, even though God didn't inspire Moses to write about His Laws, Statutes and Commandments until later.

Which shows clearly that we are not privy to the entire conversation God had with Abraham or Noah when God gave to them His commandments, His statutes, and His laws.

Consider the foolishness of the philosophy that promotes that God sanctified and Set apart and made Holy, the 7th Day of the Week, but didn't share or even mention this part of His Creation to Noah and Abraham. To preach that Abraham saw Jesus Day, but God didn't show Him the Sabbath HE was Lord of, that seems pretty foolish based on limited information we have.

And why would a person even exalt himself in such a way as to make all these assumptions about God? Isn't it because he doesn't like some of God's Commandments, and is working to justify his rejection of them?

That is why. If you were honest you would admit it, just as I did all these years ago when I looked into the Law of Liberty and saw what manner of man I was, and my motivation for making the same foolish claims.

Maybe you will not be persuaded to consider, but for those reading along, can you not see the point?

 

[Studyman]

5. God had two opportunities to give both Noah, the Noahic law, or Abraham, Abrahamic covenant the commandment to keep the sabbath holy but chose not to.

You have no evidence of these popular teachings you are promoting. Your assumption that when God said Isaac was blessed "Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws", consisted only cutting off the loose skin from him and his male children's penis is absurd. And yet that is the Abrahamic Covenant.

Gen. 17: 9 And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations. 10 "This is my covenant", which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.

The idea that men believe that they are somehow privy to all of God's discussions with Noah or Abraham is foolishness. What God told you was that Abraham was blessed " Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.". Your assertion that God didn't give Abraham His Laws about Adultery, Sabbath, or Loving others as himself, or the 1st and Greatest Commandment of all, is based on conjecture at best. Consider the foolishness of this religious philosophy. And why would a person even assume such a thing? As it turns out, the purpose is to justify rejecting some of God's Commandments and judgments that they don't like.

6. Jesus died in the cross for the sins of mankind. Those that accept Him by the grace of God through faith are justified (cleansed in the eyes of God).

But not everyone who calls Jesus Lord, Lord, are justified, (cleansed in the eyes of God). They must first be "learned of the Father" and then given to the Christ by God. This is why Peter said, " We ought to obey God rather than men." And why Paul said "(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. (Like Noah and Abraham and Caleb etc.)

7. Jesus sacrifice ushered in the new covenant which does not include the law or the 10 commandments.

That is your adopted religious opinion. The Jesus "of the bible" said;

Matt. 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

8. Jesus gave us two love commandments and repeated 9 of the old commandments into them. The 4th commandment was not repeated so is not part of the new covenant.

The Jesus "of the Bible" said:

Mark 2: 27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: 28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

9. Jesus fulfilled (completed) the law including the 4th commandment and became the Lord of not just the Sabbath but if everything else (Matt. 28:18).

Fulfill and abolish are opposite in meaning. How did Jesus Fulfil "thou shall not commit adultery" to mean we are not obligated to keep our flesh from lusting after adultery? In the same token, how does Jesus fulfill "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy", to mean not to remember God's Sabbath to keep it Holy?

The only reason why men of this world accept one commandment and not the other, is because they don't mind God telling them not to cheat on their wife, but they don't like God telling them what to do on Saturdays.

The 4th commandment has not changed but instead it has been fulfilled.

Your religious opinions notwithstanding, the issue with EGW, which is the topic of this thread, was the change of the Sabbath. The RCC has always claimed authority given them by the Christ, to make the change, as they know full well there isn't any instruction to do so the bible anywhere. There is not even ONE Prophesy, promise, or even implication given in the Holy Scriptures that foretold, forewarned or otherwise even mentioned the coming of this "change" of God's Holy Day. The Priesthood was prophesied to change, the manner in which we receive God's Laws was prophesied to change, the manner in which sins are forgiven, was prophesied to change. But never the change in God's Sabbath. And if the RCC and all the theologians of this world over the last several centuries cannot find Scripture in the Holy Bible that prophesies of this obvious change, there is no chance that you will find it, no offence intended. In the Entire Bible, there is nowhere in which God saw fit to prepare His People for a change in His Sabbath. In fact, the Holy Scriptures promote just the opposite.

This is the issue between EGW and the RCC. It wasn't about promoting a philosophy that people who love and honor and worship God on Sunday, are of the devil. And yet, that is what the very premise that your post is teaching about her. I wish you would at least address this. There is plenty of philosophy of EGW to disagree with.

 

[Hentenza]

That's not what God said plainly

According to your interpretation and lack of historical context.

 

[ViaCrucis]

The day Jesus rose from the dead is greater and more holy than any other day. Period. It's not just a day, it's THE DAY. If someone wants to have a problem with that, then take it up with the King of the Universe, because it's His Day.

 

[Hentenza]

The RCC itself "Claims" to have re-written the commandment through the Authority they claim was given to them by the Lord's Christ, to change God's Sabbath as was defined in the Holy Scriptures as being the 7th Day of the week, Saturday as described at creation which the Commandment of God Himself referenced, to the first day of the week, Sunday, the Catholic sabbath.

This is the issue EGW had as defined in the very website you posted.

EGW disregards clear patristics evidence showing that the early church gathered on Sunday not Saturday. This evidence proceeds Constantine.

EGW didn't teach that men who worshipped God on Sunday were of the devil. Your post taught that, but EGW didn't.

From EGW’s own writings that I posted in my OP.

There are true Christians in every church, not excepting the Roman Catholic communion. None are condemned until they have had the light and have seen the obligation of the fourth commandment. But when the decree shall go forth enforcing the counterfeit sabbath, and the loud cry of the third angel shall warn men against the worship of the beast and his image, the line will be clearly drawn between the false and the true. Then those who still continue in transgression will receive the mark of the beast. Ev 234.2

Here it is clear that those that do not change, repent, and keep the sabbath will receive the mark of the beast. This is not just addressed to the RCC but to anyone that does not keep the sabbath.

It was never about what days of the week to worship God, as EGW, Wesley, Calvin, and all reformers promoted worship of God every day of the week. I was always about God's sabbath VS, the RCC Sabbath, 7th day vs. 1st day.

EGW is about the 7th vs the 1st. But she takes it several steps further by claiming that the forth commandment is a moral commandment and those that do not keep it are sinning.

If you can find in the website you posted where EGW says worshipping God on Sunday makes a man receive the mark of the beast, please show me.

Already did. Open the link in the OP.

I know Jesus obeyed God's commandments, and worshipped God every day, even Sunday.

Yes. And He was the only one that was able to keep the commandments (and the whole law) perfectly.

I find no evidence that EGW taught Jesus was of the devil, for worshipping God on Sunday. But I could be wrong, so if you can find such a teaching, please provide it.

Strawman. No one has argued that Jesus was of the devil. I really think that you are not understanding the actual argument.

And if you can't, then shouldn't you clarify your teaching here?

I’m not teaching. I’m arguing the words of Ellen White which is the topic of this thread.

Secondly, do not ever change my post by adding your own commentary. This is against the site rules. I did not post the following:

Hentenza said:
1.Gods (Ten Commandments including the) 4th commandment was given (BY GOD) to Israel during Moses time (15th century BCE) and (God Inspired) Moses wrote to write the 5 books of the Torah which includes the 10 commandments.

The parenthetical text, your crossing of words, and underlining of words do not appear in my original post therefore are not my words and change the meaning and context of my post You are back to attempting to show things that I did not say. I gave you a chance but you obviously are not getting it. Learn posting etiquette.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The day Jesus rose from the dead is greater and more holy than any other day. Period. It's not just a day, it's THE DAY. If someone wants to have a problem with that, then take it up with the King of the Universe, because it's His Day.

And where does the Scriptures say because Jesus rested in His tomb on the seventh day and went back to His Fathers work and rose the first day, that makes it delete and is greater than the commandments of God and Testimony of God. I see your words here not God's. Certainly nothing Jesus ever said after He rose and He is very capable of speaking for Himself.

 

[Bob S]

Does Heb 10:1 say the Sabbath law was a shadow or does it say something else. I am a firm believer of not adding to the Scriptures on what it does not say but allowing the Bible to interpret Itself.

Oh, how I wish that were true. Everywhere there is a verse that tells us to keep the commandments of God, you interpret that as being the ten Commandments. In 1Jn3: 4 (Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.) you tell us that those words mean the Ten Commandments. Your "interpretations" are surely adding to scripture.

The New Covenant according to God is having His laws now written in the heart and mind of the New Covenant believer's heart. Heb8:10

There again, you interpret that as being the Ten Commandments

and only God can define His laws, which He did Exo20:6, it is His Testimony Exo31:18 and as the Scripture you posted indicated, the entire Bible is about the testimony of God through His apostles and prophets. And who has a greater testimony than God Himself. No one.

6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. Are those ten that follow that statement mean that God didn't continue to give the Israelites any more commands????? How do you get off ignoring the remainder of the Law?

Weird thing to say to a stranger and only God knows anyone's spiritual state so I say its best to let God be God to judge ones heart and to define His laws and Scripture.

Yes and once in Christ if we love Him He says keep My commandments and gives us a Helper, the Spirit of Truth so we don't have to do it alone John14:15-18

So SB, do you believe you, at some point, will stop sinning and stand alone without your redeemer? Is Jesus telling us that if we believe in Him, we will be able to live without sinning, or that His blood will cover our mistakes?

Everyone has to have a conversion in Christ in order to be part of the second resurrection if we are not alive when He returns

This applies to everyone, and while no one can keep God's laws on their own, through Christ all things are possible including keeping His commandments John14:15-18 Rev14:12 Rev22:14

The great command Jesus gave is a new one. He kept all the commands that a Jew was responsible to keep and in Jn15 asks us to keep His new command to LOVE OTHERS AS HE LOVES US. He certainly was not telling mankind to observe all that He observed.

I think you are reading your own doctrine into the Scriptures. No one should dwell on sinning, but if our heart is changed, the outward part would be too and the commandments would be kept.

How is that going for you?

Again, no one can in their own power but with God, He promises He has a people who overcomes. We can read all about this in Revelation which is the Revelation of Jesus Christ.

Jesus, the great ambassador to the Gentile nations, the one Jesus trusted with spreading the New and better Covenant, admitted He was a sinner.