Dear Pete Hegseth, I’m Grateful the Japanese Navy Spared My Grandfather’s Life

[Aryeh Jay]

Have you already received your standard issue Patch, Eye and Parrot, Shoulder?

Funny, I do have an African Grey Parrot named Captain Morgan. Those things live forever. 22 years old at the moment. Eye patch, yes, but needs pirate upgrade.

 

[Belk]

There's two sides to what happened. One can not in good faith accuse someone of defending war crimes or murder, until it's been proven by a court of law that war crimes and or murder took place. It may turn out that neither charge is brought against those in the administration and the military who were involved and the action is ruled as justified. Remember, it's presumed innocent until proven guilty by a court of law. Right now the law is on @Oompa Loompa's side if he's presuming innocence.

The irony is palpable.

 

[Servus]

...the U.S. is attacking a drug cartel whose aim is to maximize profits by trafficking an illegal substance. The last time I checked, no cartel had flown airplanes into sky scrapers or set bombs off in train stations.

Narco drug trafficking has resulted in the deaths of hundreds of citizens.

 

[ranunculus]

There's two sides to what happened. One can not in good faith accuse someone of defending war crimes or murder, until it's been proven by a court of law that war crimes and or murder took place. It may turn out that neither charge is brought against those in the administration and the military who were involved and the action is ruled as justified. Remember, it's presumed innocent until proven guilty by a court of law. Right now the law is on @Oompa Loompa's side if he's presuming innocence.

You cannot be for real. Your absolute lack of self awareness needs to be studied.

 

[Servus]

The irony is palpable.

Not really. It intentionally points out that it goes both ways.

 

[Yarddog]

From 2004 to 2018 the US conducted hundreds of airstrikes against terrorist operations in Pakistan, without being at war with Pakistan.

But we were in an authorized military action against the terrorists that would flee into Pakistan from Afghanistan.

In the same way the US is conducting airstrikes against Narco-terrorist operations coming out of or within Venezuela, without being at war with Venezuela.

So called Narco terrorists and not a military action authorized by Congress. This isn't about narcotics. If it was, Trump wouldn't be making deals with Cartels and criminal gangs, and Central American leaders that are guilty of bringing drugs into this country. Trump most likely wants Venezuelan oil.

 

[Servus]

You cannot be for real. Your absolute lack of self awareness needs to be studied.

Oh I see, your forte is personal attacks. So noted

 

[Belk]

Not really. It intentionally points out that it goes both ways.

 

[DaisyDay]

There's two sides to what happened. One can not in good faith accuse someone of defending war crimes or murder, until it's been proven by a court of law that war crimes and or murder took place.

Of course you can. Someone may be defending the act but not the label. If Joe Schmoe punches a baby in the face and his defenders deny that he committed child abuse, they are defending the act however it may be labeled.

It may turn out that neither charge is brought against those in the administration and the military who were involved and the action is ruled as justified.

The foxes may very well declare the hen-house rampagers as justified.

Remember, it's presumed innocent until proven guilty by a court of law. Right now the law is on @Oompa Loompa's side if he's presuming innocence.

 

[A2SG]

Remember, it's presumed innocent until proven guilty by a court of law. Right now the law is on @Oompa Loompa's side if he's presuming innocence.

Wait, let me see if I've got this. The military shooting shipwrecked survivors of an attack are presumed innocent until proven guilty, but the people in the boats that were attacked are not? They're just presumed guilty automatically?

When was the trial where their guilt was proven in a court of law?

-- A2SG, musta missed that one....

 

[Servus]

They cite innocent until proven guilty in court over and over, while condemning others who haven't been proven guilty. I've been pointing out the hypocrisy for a while.

 

[A2SG]

They cite innocent until proven guilty in court over and over, while condemning others who haven't been proven guilty. I've been pointing out the hypocrisy for a while.

Looks like you missed one.

-- A2SG, see above....

 

[Servus]

But we were in an authorized military action against the terrorists that would flee into Pakistan from Afghanistan.

And it may be determined this is authorized too.

So called Narco terrorists and not a military action authorized by Congress. This isn't about narcotics. If it was, Trump wouldn't be making deals with Cartels and criminal gangs, and Central American leaders that are guilty of bringing drugs into this country. Trump most likely wants Venezuelan oil.

9/11 wasn't a military action either. It was an act that was orchestrated and perpetrated by civilians. And the rest is the usual ulterior motives because Trump is evil conspiracy theory argument.

 

[DaisyDay]

Narco drug trafficking has resulted in the deaths of hundreds of citizens.

Automobile sales have resulted in the deaths of hundred of thousands of citizens and non-citizens alike.

 

[Yarddog]

And it may be determined this is authorized too.

It may, but it hasn't been authorized by Congress, yet.

9/11 wasn't a military action either. It was an act that was orchestrated and perpetrated by civilians.

What does that have to do with this? All Qaeda funded 9/11. They also launch many terrorist attacks around the world.

I acknowledge that the drug issues is horrible but it isn't like the terror attacks. Cartels don't want to kill their customers. People that use their product freely take the drugs that may kill them.

And the rest is the usual ulterior motives because Trump is evil conspiracy theory argument.

Trump is a walking, talking contradiction. He uses drugs as a reason to kill smugglers but pardons drug smugglers. No, this isn't about drugs. Trump loves dictators but wants regime change in Venezuela. Why? He wants something from Maduro. Venezuela says he wants their oil.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Venezuela isn't at war with the US.

The US isn't at war with Venezuela either. They are at war with the drug cartels who have been attacking and killing US civilians for decades.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

You've been here since literally page 1 making excuses for the US military doing double taps. Which are a war crime during war time and murder any other time.

All I am saying is that I do not trust what a democrat senator says about the video so we really do not know what actually happened, much less if an war crimes occurred. But once the video is released, I will make a determination then.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Their refusal to admit that according to the Geneva Conventions of 1949 double taps are a war crime doesn't change that fact.

Double taps are not a war crime if the enemy is still engaging in hostile activities. If the video footage reveals that they were trying to salvage the drugs, it could be argued that they were still in the fight. No different than blowing up an enemy ammo truck and finishing off the soldiers trying to save the cargo.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

And it may be determined this is authorized too.

9/11 wasn't a military action either. It was an act that was orchestrated and perpetrated by civilians. And the rest is the usual ulterior motives because Trump is evil conspiracy theory argument.

The distinction between military action against the perpetrators of 9/11 and current military operations targeting narcotics traffickers lies in the authorization process. On September 14, 2001, the United States Senate unanimously approved military action against Afghanistan and those associated with the 9/11 attacks, passing the resolution with a vote of 98-0.

Did the United States Senate grant authorization to the current President to take action against narcotics traffickers?

 

[Yarddog]

The US isn't at war with Venezuela either.

Didn't say we were.

They are at war with the drug cartels who have been attacking and killing US civilians for decades.

The US isn't at war with Cartels. Trump is helping some and bombing others. It seems on who is helping Trump.