ICE Nativity scenes: Churches reimagine Christmas story amid deportations

[Hans Blaster]

America really is the 80s mini series ‘V’.

I knew it. Stephen Miller not only sounds like a fake name, but he looks like the kind that would eat whole mice.

 

[Servus]

The DR is one of the places they have gone. But the DR has about the same population as Haiti, so I wouldn’t expect them to be able a sizable influx, especially compared to a country like ours that’s far larger and wealthier.

Wealthier is what draws the most from everywhere here. And that wealth is handed out for free on a silver platter. The Land of the Free Stuff.

 

[BPPLEE]

America really is the 80s mini series ‘V’.

Yes, the aliens were not our friends

 

[iluvatar5150]

Wealthier is what draws the most from everywhere here. And that wealth is handed out for free on a silver platter. The Land of the Free Stuff.

This blessing is such a burden.

 

[Servus]

This blessing is such a burden.

Funny how gobs of cash being forked out to forginers is highly recommended by certain people who want them pouring in by the millions to get on the gravy train. But when the president wants to give some money to hardworking tax paying citizens there's outrage over how that's going to hurt the economy.

 

[BCP1928]

Funny how gobs of cash being forked out to forginers is highly recommended by certain people who want them pouring in by the millions to get on the gravy train.

I wonder who those people are? Why don't you go argue with them?

But when the president wants to give some money to hardworking tax paying citizens there's outrage over how that's going to hurt the economy.

Yeah, some people believe that the best way to deal with hardworking, tax-paying citizens would be to make jobs available with decent pay and working conditions. It's called free market economics, not something that either the Republicans or the Democrats care very much about.

 

[BPPLEE]

This blessing is such a burden.

1.1 billion people in the world live in poverty. Do you think they all should come to the US?

 

[iluvatar5150]

Funny how gobs of cash being forked out to forginers is highly recommended by certain people who want them pouring in by the millions to get on the gravy train. But when the president wants to give some money to hardworking tax paying citizens there's outrage over how that's going to hurt the economy.

You'd have to take that up with somebody who was outraged over it. I thought Trump's plan was silly and simple-minded, but not enough to get worked up over.

1.1 billion people in the world live in poverty. Do you think they all should come to the US?

If you weed out the criminals first and set up a system to get everybody on the books and paying taxes, etc, then yes. I've said before on here that I'm about as open-borders as you can get. There are a number of problems in this country caused or exacerbated by declining populations and immigration is the only way to fix them. It'll cost money in the short term, but pay for itself down the road.

Of course, the reality is that the world's 1.1 billion poor aren't going to come here. The folks who make the trek will skew towards those with means, ambition, and perserverence - the sorts of qualities that we laud in the early settlers.

 

[BPPLEE]

You'd have to take that up with somebody who was outraged over it. I thought Trump's plan was silly and simple-minded, but not enough to get worked up over.



If you weed out the criminals first and set up a system to get everybody on the books and paying taxes, etc, then yes. I've said before on here that I'm about as open-borders as you can get. There are a number of problems in this country caused or exacerbated by declining populations and immigration is the only way to fix them. It'll cost money in the short term, but pay for itself down the road.

Of course, the reality is that the world's 1.1 billion poor aren't going to come here. The folks who make the trek will skew towards those with means, ambition, and perserverence - the sorts of qualities that we laud in the early settlers.

So they can come here and live in poverty, with low paying jobs and government assistance. It’s not sustainable.

 

[BCP1928]

So they can come here and live in poverty, with low paying jobs and government assistance. It’s not sustainable.

Not only is it unsustainable, it's a dumb idea to start with. You need to pay attention to what "liberals" here really want to do, instead of just making it up.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Boston-area church defies Archdiocese request to remove anti-ICE nativity​

 

[BPPLEE]

Not only is it unsustainable, it's a dumb idea to start with. You need to pay attention to what "liberals" here really want to do, instead of just making it up.

I guess you didn’t see post #28.

 

[BCP1928]

I guess you didn’t see post #28.

I guess you didn't read it.

 

[BPPLEE]

I guess you didn't read it

I did. Eliminate criminals (like you really could) and those who won’t try to come how many does that leave? How many do you want to come here? 800 million?
400 million?

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

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This is unlikely. Since it's not cooked.

 

[BPPLEE]

This is unlikely. Since it's not cooked.

It’s a voodoo ritual.

 

[BCP1928]

It’s a voodoo ritual.

So what?

 

[BCP1928]

I did. Eliminate criminals (like you really could) and those who won’t try to come how many does that leave? How many do you want to come here? 800 million?
400 million?

Hard to put a top number on it if they are, as Iluvatar suggested, law-abiding, working and paying taxes.

 

[BPPLEE]

Hard to put a top number on it if they are, as Iluvatar suggested, law-abiding, working and paying taxes.

Good luck finding 400 million jobs in the US

 

[iluvatar5150]

So they can come here and live in poverty, with low paying jobs and government assistance. It’s not sustainable.

Not sustainable according to whom?
Cato's model has immigrants being a net economic benefit to the country (there's some nuance in the details, but that's the gist.

You know what also is unlikely to be sustainable? An aging population with an expensive healthcare regime. No amount of abortion bans are going to fix that.