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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
Now does everyone understand why the "right to refuse illegal orders" video was made?
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Hegseth in 2016 repeatedly warned troops shouldn't follow Trump's unlawful orders
"Here's the problem with Trump," Hegseth told Megyn Kelly. "He says, 'Go ahead and kill the family. Go ahead and torture.' What happens when people follow those orders, or don't follow them? It's not clear that Donald Trump will have their back."
Literally warning military against illegal orders
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Is that the part which satisfies the condition of terrorism, my friend?
No matter what the migrants are intimidated into doing, terrorists are who intimidated them into doing it.
I am sure that we do not ever just "let them" do any of those horrid things. Which is why it's called fighting terrorism, according to Trump's actions.
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Keep in mind - no one - not Senator - not military member has said Trump has issued illegal orders.
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Wow. The false claims here against the President, are frightening...
Never thought I'd see the day where people are sooo anti-Trump, to whereas they 1)defend terrorists' liberty to be terrorists and 2)lobby hard for narco-terrorists to be allowed to try to annihilate Americans' lives and migrants' lives.
Never thought I'd see the day where people are sooo anti-Trump, to whereas they 1)defend terrorists' liberty to be terrorists and 2)lobby hard for narco-terrorists to be allowed to try to annihilate Americans' lives and migrants' lives.
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Pete Hegseth himself saw the need to warn the military about the possibility of illegal orders. He did not trust the CiC to keep it legal. See post #282.
This is a justified reminder. Not an accusation.
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Did I miss where he named an illegal order from the President either his first term or this one?
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@DaisyDay ...I feel very sad, if the truth is burdensome for you.
Stay strong, continue to resist any anti-America humans who berate the Trump DoD with their hypocrisies and doublestandard.
Stay strong, continue to resist any anti-America humans who berate the Trump DoD with their hypocrisies and doublestandard.
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The law exists regardless of whether the current president is in violation.
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Does your anti America human description cross party lines to include everything said about Biden?
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I'm deeply touched by your concern for my well-being.
You're a true humanitarian, sir. Be of good cheer: your "if" is false!Shouldn't that be DoW now? Double standard is two words. It is so refreshing to interface with a serious person who is definitely not baiting and goading!
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