Charlie Kirk Didn’t Shy Away From Who He Was. We Shouldn’t, Either

[Hans Blaster]

What is this picture?

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If you think we should recognize it without labeling, we don't. What does it have to do Biden? Where was it taken? When was it taken? Who are these people?

 

[BPPLEE]

What is this picture?

If you think we should recognize it without labeling, we don't. What does it have to do Biden? Where was it taken? When was it taken? Who are these people?

Biden fans coming to America during Biden's reign. Just Google pictures of the border under Biden

 

[BPPLEE]

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1037773621545304&id=100059380278569

 

[Hans Blaster]

Biden fans coming to America during Biden's reign

Objection. Non-responsive.

 

[BPPLEE]

Objection. Non-responsive.

Just Google pictures of the border under Biden and you’ll get similar results

 

[Hans Blaster]

Just Google pictures of the border under Biden and you’ll get similar results

There is no border visible in that picture. There are people walking along a road and a sign or two (plus a cross) in Spanish.

What are those pictures?

 

[BPPLEE]

There is no border visible in that picture. There are people walking along a road and a sign or two (plus a cross) in Spanish.

What are those pictures?

People coming to the US while Biden was president. You can also try “Pictures of the border crisis “
Surely you remember images like this

 

[BPPLEE]

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Pictures of the border crisis

 

[Hans Blaster]

People coming to the US while Biden was president.

Where is this? SOme place in Mexico?

You can also try “Pictures of the border crisis “
Surely you remember images like this

Not particularly. I don't read RW media and I was busy reading about the biggest crime scene in US history.

 

[BPPLEE]

Where is this? SOme place in Mexico?

Not particularly. I don't read RW media and I was busy reading about the biggest crime scene in US history.

Since when do you get right wing results when you use Google?

 

[The Barbarian]

So Biden was catching more illegal entry attempts. 4 to 5 times Trump's average, according to your figures.

I'm trying to figure out why you'd think that's a bad thing. That's what the Border Patrol is supposed to do. As you have seen, the wall hasn't been very effective.

BTW, many illegal aliens are coming in legally, and overstaying. As the demographics shift toward people from Asia, emphasis on watching the Rio Grande becomes less and less effective.

Most illegal aliens still from Mexico, with over 60%. Asians account for about 12% the next highest category.

A huge number of people come in on visas from Latin America and elsewhere, and merely overstay.

And here's the catch; our economy profits from those people:
A 2007 review of the academic literature by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) found that "over the past two decades, most efforts to estimate the fiscal impact of immigration in the United States have concluded that, in aggregate and over the long term, tax revenues of all types generated by immigrants—both legal and unauthorized—exceed the cost of the services they use."

Economic impact of illegal immigration to the United States - Wikipedia

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If Trump does make good on his promise of mass deportations, our research shows that removing millions of immigrants would be costly for everyone in the U.S., including American citizens and businesses.

One important factor is that mass deportations would weaken key industries in the U.S. that rely on immigrant workers, including those living in the U.S. illegally.

Overall, immigrants without legal authorization make up about 5% of the total U.S. workforce.

But that overall percentage doesn’t reflect these immigrants’ concentrated presence within various industries. Approximately half of U.S. farmworkers are living in the country without legal authorization, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Some of these immigrant farmworkers are skilled supervisors who make decisions about planting and harvesting. Others know how to use and maintain tractors, loaders, diggers, rakers, fertilizer sprayers, irrigation systems, and other machines crucial to farm operations.

If those workers were to be suddenly removed from the country, Americans would see an increase in food costs, including what they spend on groceries and at restaurants.

With fewer available workers to pick fruits and vegetables and prepare the food for shipment and distribution, the domestic production of food could decrease, leading to higher costs and more imports.


National estimates of the restaurant and food preparation workforce, meanwhile, indicate that between 10% and 15% of those workers are immigrants living in the U.S. illegally.

Past state-level immigration enforcement policies offer an idea of what could happen at the national level if Trump were to carry out widespread deportations.

For example, a 2011 Alabama law called HB-56 directed local police officers to investigate the immigration status of drivers stopped for speeding. It also prohibited landlords from renting properties to immigrants who do not have legal authorization to work or live in the country. That law and its resulting effects prompted some Alabama-based immigrant workers to leave the state following workplace raids.

Their departure wound up costing the state an estimated $2.3 billion to $10.8 billion loss in Alabama’s annual gross domestic product due to the loss of workers and economic output.

Deporting millions of immigrants would shock the US economy, increasing housing, food and other prices

While immigrants without legal authorization make up about 5% of the U.S. workforce, these workers are concentrated in particular industries, including agriculture.

theconversation.com

A gradual reduction in illegal immigrants would likely not cause great economic losses. But mass deportation would cause major damage to the U.S. economy.

In the long term, overall gross national product accruing to U.S.-born and foreign-born, permanent residents would fall by about 1%, compared with the base forecast.

What if all illegal immigrants were deported?

www.econ.iastate.edu

 

[The Barbarian]

Just Google pictures of the border under Biden and you’ll get similar results

The data show that the Border Patrol was much more effective under Biden:

 

[BPPLEE]

The data show that the Border Patrol was much more effective under Biden:
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No context.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Since when do you get right wing results when you use Google?

Did I say that? No, what I said is that during Biden's presidency I was not reading the RW sites that were obsessed with the "caravans".

As for google, I am not interested in some wild goose chase, I want to know what you are posting. So when and where was this photo taken?

 

[BPPLEE]

Did I say that? No, what I said is that during Biden's presidency I was not reading the RW sites that were obsessed with the "caravans".

As for google, I am not interested in some wild goose chase, I want to know what you are posting. So when and where was this photo taken?

December 27th 2023 (published)
Pictures on Christmas Day (December 25th, 2023) showed a long line of people, some carrying placards and banners, children amongst them, setting out from Tapachula, in the far southeast of Mexico

 

[Hans Blaster]

December 27th 2023 (published)
Pictures on Christmas Day (December 25th, 2023) showed a long line of people, some carrying placards and banners, children amongst them, setting out from Tapachula, in the far southeast of Mexico

Thank you. It is close to the border of Mexico... with Guatemala.

We can go back to how bad Charlie Kirk is despite his tragic death.

 

[BPPLEE]

Thank you. It is close to the border of Mexico... with Guatemala.

Yes, and they were headed to the US
Those pictures from Christmas Day 2023 in Tapachula, Mexico, showed a
large migrant caravan (thousands strong) setting off towards the U.S. border, featuring families and children, expressing frustration with waiting for documents and seeking better lives, just before high-level U.S.-Mexico talks on migration control.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

Yes, and they were headed to the US
Those pictures from Christmas Day 2023 in Tapachula, Mexico, showed a
large migrant caravan (thousands strong) setting off towards the U.S. border, featuring families and children, expressing frustration with waiting for documents and seeking better lives, just before high-level U.S.-Mexico talks on migration control.

Wasn't that a political manifestation, the march against poverty. Due to Anthony Blinken going to Mexico to make it harder for entering the US? This was not a regular occurrence in that case (there was another protest in 2022 I think). I also think it topped out at 6000 persons. This would be what a journalist would call tendentious reporting.

How many of those in that protest was let into the US?

 

[BPPLEE]

Wasn't that a political manifestation, the march against poverty. Due to Anthony Blinken going to Mexico to make it harder for entering the US? This was not a regular occurrence in that case (there was another protest in 2022 I think). I also think it topped out at 6000 persons. This would be what a journalist would call tendentious reporting.

How many of those in that protest was let into the US?

What do y’all do, PM each other?
There are other photos, that’s just one of many

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[Stopped_lurking]

What do y’all do, PM each other?
There are other photos, that’s just one of many

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No, I'm just fascinated by the glazing of Charlie Kirk. But I have learned that many pictures are chosen not to accurately represent reality in the discussions on this site, so I always do a reverse image search.

Stock images don't give information very often. Almost always context is missing.