Now does everyone understand why the "right to refuse illegal orders" video was made?

[RDKirk]

"Re-engaging"? Trying to find something to cling on in the high seas after the boat has been obliterated is re-engaging? Not only that, one would have to "engage" to re-engage.

Yeah, that "re-engaging" is simply absurd to unbelievable depths of absurdity.

 

[RDKirk]

Obumpy killed Bin Laden without giving him the chance to surrender, which was a mistake IMHO. They should have arrested him, put him on trial, shaved his beard off to make him look ridiculous. Got him to point the finger at co-conspirators.

They tried to arrest him. He went for his gun.

 

[RDKirk]

We don't know whether the original accusation, i.e. "Kill them all", is not true or if the current denial is just a coverup.

I don't know if he said "Kill them all," but planning a strike with no way to recover prisoners amounts to that decision.

 

[RDKirk]

Obama had a lot of people killed. Including the done strike on a wedding taking place.

Obama did not order, "Destroy that wedding." That was a case of mistaken targeting. We thought--honestly--that it was something else.

And mistaken targeting happens. It happened more than once in my time in service where I was able to observe later, "that was not what we thought it was." Even an Iraqi wedding party in one case in the 90s. I was even myself involved in the targeting in one case of the Persian Gulf War "that was not what we thought it was" to the deaths of several hundred women and children. "It was not what we thought it was."

 

[RDKirk]

JAG - The Secretary of War and the Navel Commander disagree -

I've said before, there are Saul Goodmans in the military.

 

[RDKirk]

Criticism of the Christian position that killing those boatmen was a righteous act is the opposite of what some are wrongfully accusing me of. Is constantly besmirching and falsely accusing Christians your only reason for being here?

BTW here's a little something to ponder:

This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” 1 Samuel 15:2-3

You know there's been a whole New Testament written since then, and the rules by which Christians dispersed in the world are different from the rules of the Israelites within the boundaries of the specific physical territory granted to them in those days.

 

[Say it aint so]

I've said before, there are Saul Goodmans in the military.

It's kind of saying the legal department of a firm "authorized" the companies COO to embezzle money.
As if as long as it's "authorized" then a unlawful act is deemed lawful.

 

[DaisyDay]

Criticism of the Christian position that killing those boatmen was a righteous act is the opposite of what some are wrongfully accusing me of. Is constantly besmirching and falsely accusing Christians your only reason for being here?

BTW here's a little something to ponder:

This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” 1 Samuel 15:2-3

Yes, we're aware that when God says to kill them all, not only is it not murder, but it is a sin to be merciful. However, neither Donald John nor Pete H.are God; neither have His authority.

 

[Always in His Presence]

I've said before, there are Saul Goodmans in the military.

And there are many more Honorable men and women. Thanks for your opinion.

 

[Always in His Presence]

"Re-engaging"? Trying to find something to cling on in the high seas after the boat has been obliterated is re-engaging? Not only that, one would have to "engage" to re-engage.

If it had been obliterated - they could not climb on board -

 

[durangodawood]

Yeah, that "re-engaging" is simply absurd to unbelievable depths of absurdity.

People will dig very deep to defend their image of politicians and leaders they have committed to.

Its this observation, among others, that has me thinking the political commitment is winning out these day. And all other commitments are being bent to serve it.

 

[jonojim1337]

You want me to make a list of all the illegal stuff the US government is doing and has been doing for decades? Give me a break.

 

[Say it aint so]

If it had been obliterated - they could not climb on board -

A video of the attack, shown to U.S. lawmakers on Thursday and described to Reuters by two sources familiar with the imagery, showed smoke clearing and two men, who had somehow lived through the blast, clinging to a severed section of the front of the vessel in a futile effort to survive.​

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They were shirtless, unarmed and carried no visible communications equipment. They also appeared to have no idea what had just hit them, or that the U.S. military was weighing whether to finish them off. "The video follows them for about an hour as they tried to flip the boat back over. They couldn't do it," --Reuters​

Dude....come on...

 

[BCP1928]

Criticism of the Christian position that killing those boatmen was a righteous act is the opposite of what some are wrongfully accusing me of. Is constantly besmirching and falsely accusing Christians your only reason for being here?

BTW here's a little something to ponder:

This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” 1 Samuel 15:2-3

Do you think the US is involved in a holy war?

 

[Aryeh Jay]

You know there's been a whole New Testament written since then,

I think I've heard of it, what's it called?

 

[Say it aint so]

Do you think the US is involved in a holy war?

I don't know, but if one's worldview is those passages justify unconscionable acts, then name your massacre and your golden.

 

[Always in His Presence]

A video of the attack, shown to U.S. lawmakers on Thursday and described to Reuters by two sources familiar with the imagery, showed smoke clearing and two men, who had somehow lived through the blast, clinging to a severed section of the front of the vessel in a futile effort to survive.​

​

They were shirtless, unarmed and carried no visible communications equipment. They also appeared to have no idea what had just hit them, or that the U.S. military was weighing whether to finish them off. "The video follows them for about an hour as they tried to flip the boat back over. They couldn't do it," --Reuters​

Dude....come on...

From your own link:

Admiral Frank Bradley, who was the head of the Joint Special Operations Command at the time, concluded that the wreckage was likely being kept afloat because there was cocaine inside and could drift long enough to be recovered, said the sources.​

So Bradley decided that, in order to complete the mission assigned by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and neutralize the threat posed by the drug boat, he would need to attack the vessel again.​

BTW - I'm not a dude - I don't work on a horse ranch

Obliterated - definition - : to remove from existence : destroy utterly all trace, indication

 

[Say it aint so]

From your own link:

Admiral Frank Bradley, who was the head of the Joint Special Operations Command at the time, concluded that the wreckage was likely being kept afloat because there was cocaine inside and could drift long enough to be recovered, said the sources.​

So Bradley decided that, in order to complete the mission assigned by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and neutralize the threat posed by the drug boat, he would need to attack the vessel again.​

BTW - I'm not a dude - I don't work on a horse ranch

Obliterated - definition - : to remove from existence : destroy utterly all trace, indication

Which, Dude, Madam, is illegal. So illegal it is the exact example used in the military code as an example of illegality.

 

[MotoToTheMax]

I think I've heard of it, what's it called?

Project 2025

 

[Always in His Presence]

Project 2025

Reminds me of something that drip out of the nose of a male bovine - Unless of course you have a link.