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[David Lamb]

So you think that paradise at the north pole is a fairy tale, well you may be right but consider this;

Flat Earth Decoded (Part 3) North Pole and the Wizard of Oz Connection

In part 3 of my Flat Earth Decoded series we look at the connections between Mercator's map and the movie The Wizard of Oz and how they both show hidden symbolism about the North Pole.

odysee.com

There are all sorts of videos on the internet claiming all sorts of things. Does the bible say that paradise is at the North Pole? The bible doesn't even mention the North Pole, not even once.

 

[Jerry N.]

So you think that paradise at the north pole is a fairy tale, well you may be right but consider this;

Flat Earth Decoded (Part 3) North Pole and the Wizard of Oz Connection

In part 3 of my Flat Earth Decoded series we look at the connections between Mercator's map and the movie The Wizard of Oz and how they both show hidden symbolism about the North Pole.

odysee.com

I think I lost 10 points of my IQ watching this video. We have a rock formation in southern Poland that looks just like a chicken in a nest. I’m sure it is an esoteric symbol.

 

[Apple Sky]

I think I lost 10 points of my IQ watching this video.

I think I may have lost all mine for posting it, so why not go all hog and post another one

Flat Earth Decoded (Part 5) North Pole, Eden and the Edinburgh Connection

Part Five of my Flat Earth Decoded series we look at the symbolism in the language and geography of the North, as well as through its people to prove Eden's location.

odysee.com

 

[Jerry N.]

I think I may have lost all mine for posting it, so why not go all hog and post another one

Flat Earth Decoded (Part 5) North Pole, Eden and the Edinburgh Connection

Part Five of my Flat Earth Decoded series we look at the symbolism in the language and geography of the North, as well as through its people to prove Eden's location.

odysee.com

Thanks for the video, but it was too much for me. I stopped when they said that the “pole” in Poland referred to the North Pole. Actually, the “pole” in Poland means field. So it is the land of fields.

 

[Strong in Him]

No they are not different stars, what you see is due to our perspective & whether you are are viewing them from the north or the south.

Look at post #2,200.

If they were "upside down" then the stars at the top of picture A would be at the bottom of picture B - but they're not.
Pic A has completely different stars to pic B.
Pic A has an Eagle, a Dolphin, a Whale and a Bull. Pic B has a Scorpion, a Peacock, a Dove and a Big Dog.
Picture A has a Northern Crown, picture B has a Southern Fish - surprise, surprise.

 

[Apple Sky]

Look at post #2,200.

If they were "upside down" then the stars at the top of picture A would be at the bottom of picture B - but they're not.
Pic A has completely different stars to pic B.
Pic A has an Eagle, a Dolphin, a Whale and a Bull. Pic B has a Scorpion, a Peacock, a Dove and a Big Dog.
Picture A has a Northern Crown, picture B has a Southern Fish - surprise, surprise.

Sorry I thought we were on about them appearing upside down.

 

[Strong in Him]

Sorry I thought we were on about them appearing upside down.

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@Jerry N. said, "they are not upside down, they are different stars." You replied, "they are not different stars," post 2,205.
The picture that he posted, shows that they are.

 

[Apple Sky]

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@Jerry N. said, "they are not upside down, they are different stars." You replied, "they are not different stars," post 2,205.
The picture that he posted, shows that they are.

Jerry N was right.
We cannot see the same stars in the north as in the south & visa verse due to the vastness of the universe.

Why We See Different Stars - Utter Nonsence

• Earth's Curvature: Because the Earth is a sphere, an observer's horizon blocks from view the stars that are in the other hemisphere's sky. If you are far in the north, the southern part of the celestial sphere is below your horizon, and vice versa.

This is Utter Nonsense.

 

[prodromos]

And you are simply ignoring what I have told you.

No, I have responded to your claims and explained why they are false.

 

[Strong in Him]

Why We See Different Stars - Utter Nonsence

• Earth's Curvature: Because the Earth is a sphere, an observer's horizon blocks from view the stars that are in the other hemisphere's sky. If you are far in the north, the southern part of the celestial sphere is below your horizon, and vice versa.

This is Utter Nonsense.

WHY is it?
No, don't spend the next hour searching for a YouTube video to explain it. If you are convinced it's nonsense, tell us why - in your own words, please. What makes it nonsense and what data/pictures have you got to prove it?

I suspect that a summary of your position would be, "this is nonsense because my beliefs, and Dean Odle, say that it is."

 

[Apple Sky]

If you are convinced it's nonsense, tell us why - in your own words, please.

• Earth's Curvature: Because the Earth is a sphere, an observer's horizon blocks from view the stars that are in the other hemisphere's sky. If you are far in the north, the southern part of the celestial sphere is below your horizon, and vice versa.

This is Utter Nonsense.

There is no curvature, the earth is not a sphere, the stars are different b/c it depends whether your in the north or the south & it's all due to perspective just as the sun is, in it's rising & setting.

 

[prodromos]

Jerry N was right.
We cannot see the same stars in the north as in the south & visa verse due to the vastness of the universe.

But you don't claim a vast universe. You claim a limited dome with all the stars and the sun and moon contained therein.

Scale, perspective and horizon

This is Utter Nonsense.

Your claim is utter nonsense because it uses the above terms with no explanation of how they are relevant. It is empty words yet again.

 

[Apple Sky]

But you don't claim a vast universe. You claim a limited dome with all the stars and the sun and moon contained therein.

It depends on how big the firmament really is.

 

[prodromos]

It depends on how big the firmament really is.

No, you always claim we can only see so far, which is why you claim the sun 'appears' to rise and set. Now you want to claim we can see stars which are orders of magnitude less bright than the sun, at much greater distances. Your claims are contradictory thus they are not true claims.

Flat earthers are ever shifting the goal posts

 

[Apple Sky]

No, you always claim we can only see so far, which is why you claim the sun 'appears' to rise and set.

Yes I claimed that we only see so far but this was why we are on the earth.

Now you want to claim we can see stars which are orders of magnitude less bright than the sun, at much greater distances.

Yes & why wouldn't I ? BTW stars are closer than you think as is the sun & the moon.

 

[David Lamb]

There is no curvature, the earth is not a sphere, the stars are different b/c it depends whether your in the north or the south & it's all due to perspective just as the sun is, in it's rising & setting.

But that's not evidence. It is just making some more statements. Incidentally, you seem to have strange idea of what perspective means. Perspective makes things look smaller the further away they are from us. Perspective doesn't cause people in the north to see different stars to those people in the south see, not does it cause sunrises and sunsets.

 

[Apple Sky]

Incidentally, you seem to have strange idea of what perspective means.

It means;

outlook

view

viewpoint

point of view

standpoint

position

 

[Strong in Him]

There is no curvature, the earth is not a sphere,

The earth's a circle but it's not a sphere.
Right.

the stars are different b/c it depends whether your in the north or the south & it's all due to perspective just as the sun is, in it's rising & setting.

That's not explaining anything - that's just repeating your claims.

 

[David Lamb]

It means;

outlook

view

viewpoint

point of view

standpoint

position

Yes it can mean those things. For example, I can say, "My perspective on infant baptism is that it is unbiblical." But when perspective refers to physical things like stars, ships, the sun, trains, etc., perspective refers to the way that as they go further away from us, they appear to be smaller and smaller. That is not what happens when the sun sets. Just before the sun begins to set, it looks just as big as it did at noon. Then it gradually disappears below the horizon, so that halfway through the sunset, only half of the sun is visible. Large ships do appear to get smaller the further they travel from us, but when they reach the horizon, the bottom of the ship disappears first, then the middle, then the top. That is not perspective.

 

[Strong in Him]

Yes & why wouldn't I ?

Well it's in line with all your other FE claims that you have made with no evidence; so, no reason at all, I suppose

You expect us to accept the teachings of Odle and any other Flat Earther who is a born again Christian.
Yet Charles Duke - who is also a born again Christian, who gives talks about his time on the moon and then tells folk about Jesus - is a liar.
You have, a couple of times, said things like, "this is true; I don't care how much evidence you show me."
If anyone gives a proven, scientific fact, like the sun being 93,000,000 miles away, you laugh hysterically and then said that "they" are liars.
You "can't get your head around science", yet you doubt and belittle those who study it.