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[Jerry N.]

First, there are no planes that have the range to fly all around the globe.
Secondly, if they did have the range, then yes, they would end up where they started.

This has been done with rockets and missiles.

 

[Apple Sky]

You have completely different stars in the southern hemisphere.
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Yes I know and the video explains why this is so.

 

[prodromos]

Yes - And the video explains why this is so.

No it doesn't. Not remotely. On the flat earth model, star trails looking South should be horizontal, parallel to the horizon. It is dusk here in Sydney, and looking South I can see the Southern Cross, upside down just above the horizon. An hour ago in Peru, just before dawn, they could see the Southern Cross a little higher in the sky, just above and East of the South celestial pole. On the flat earth we would be looking in almost opposite directions yet we are looking at exactly the same constellation.
Nothing we observe matches up with the flat earth model. It is utterly false.

 

[Jerry N.]

Yes I know and the video explains why this is so.

They are not upside down. They are different stars.

 

[Apple Sky]

They are not upside down. They are different stars.

No they are not different stars, what you see is due to our perspective & whether you are are viewing them from the north or the south.
The video explains why we are viewing them upside down the same with the moon.

 

[David Lamb]

This has been done with rockets and missiles.

And before that, ships have sailed around the world.

 

[Apple Sky]

The sun, moon & the stars are like one huge giant clock which God gave to us to tell the time, not to be orbited or landed on.

 

[Apple Sky]

And before that, ships have sailed around the world.

I know & round & round they went in one big circle.

 

[David Lamb]

The sun, moon & the stars are like one huge giant clock which God gave to us to tell the time, not to be orbited or landed on.

You have posted exactly the same thing before. Perhaps you could tell us where in God's word we are told that it is permissible to swim or sail in the sea. After all, nowhere (as far as I know) does the bible say that God created the seas for swimming or sailing. Yet both activities are mentioned in the bible without any suggestion that they are against God's will. Similarly, Genesis tells us that plant life was created to provide food for mankind and animals, but that doesn't mean it is wrong to use plant products for clothing. Indeed, linen is mentioned 93 times inn the bible. In the same way, yes, He created sun, moon and stars to give light and to be for signs and seasons, but that doesn't mean we cannot orbit or land on the moon (not the sun - too hot).

 

[David Lamb]

I know & round & round they went in one big circle.

Another statement with no evidence or proof.

 

[prodromos]

No they are not different stars, what you see is due to our perspective & whether you are are viewing them from the north or the south.
The video explains why we are viewing them upside down the same with the moon.

No, that is utter claptrap. The constellations visible in the Southern Hemisphere are completely different to those visible in the Northern Hemisphere. Once again flat earthers claim 'perspective' for things that have nothing to do with perspective. It's just a word they throw in as though it means something despite being in an utterly different context. They are either deliberately lying (which is diabolical) or they are simply incredibly stupid.

 

[Apple Sky]

You have posted exactly the same thing before. Perhaps you could tell us where in God's word we are told that it is permissible to swim or sail in the sea.

Who mentioned the sea ?

 

[Apple Sky]

No, that is utter claptrap.

Why is it ? It is the utter truth.

 

[David Lamb]

Who mentioned the sea ?

I did, as an example of something God created, which is used for activities (swimming and sailing) that the creation account does not mention. I mentioned seas and plants as examples of created things that are used for purposes not mentioned in the creation account, because you seemed to be saying that because the account says that the sun, moon and stars were for signs, that must mean (in your view) that it is wrong to orbit or land on them. Do you think it is wrong to swim in thew sea, to wear clothing made from cotton or linen or other plant-based fabrics?

 

[Apple Sky]

Do you think it is wrong to swim in thew sea, to wear clothing made from cotton or linen or other plant-based fabrics?

Not at all, why would I ?

 

[prodromos]

The sun, moon & the stars are like one huge giant clock which God gave to us to tell the time

I've pointed out a number of times how your clock analogy fails. Star trails in the Southern Hemisphere cannot be possible on your flat earth as they should form horizontal lines parallel to the horizon. Neither you nor your video can explain why they circle the South Celestial pole.

 

[prodromos]

Why is it ?

I've explained why. You are simply ignoring what I've told you.

It is the utter truth.

You say this, but you can't give any evidence to back up your claim, so your words are empty.

 

[Apple Sky]

You are simply ignoring what I've told you.

And you are simply ignoring what I have told you.

 

[Apple Sky]

So you think that paradise at the north pole is a fairy tale, well you may be right but consider this;

Flat Earth Decoded (Part 3) North Pole and the Wizard of Oz Connection

In part 3 of my Flat Earth Decoded series we look at the connections between Mercator's map and the movie The Wizard of Oz and how they both show hidden symbolism about the North Pole.

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[David Lamb]

Not at all, why would I ?

Well, I was going by what you said about it being wrong to orbit or land on the moon, sun and stars because the bible mentions them being for signs, and doesn't mention landing or orbiting. My point was that the bible doesn't say that God created the seas for swimming and sailing, or plants for making fabrics, yet it is not wrong to do those things.