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Several large private prison companies have donated and contributed to the Trump campaign. They’re then awarded contracts with the government to house all the people ICE and border patrol have been detaining. It’s essentially state sanctioned human trafficking for profit. We don’t get any of this money from this but several of Trump’s wealthy friends do.
Do you say this about every NGO or just the ones that donated to Trump. Did any of them donate to Democrats? Do any NGOs donate to Democrats? Are they getting the same treatment you accuse these private prisons are getting? Are all these detention centers privately run?

Its quite a theory it seems you support. They donated to Trump and now Trump is enforcing immigration law so we can funnel money to those who donated.

I bet you don't make that claim of every NGO that donated to Biden or other Democrats.
 
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That's what everyone says when they believe a conspiracy theory.
Did you or did you not wonder why people are being kept for months instead of being immediately deported?
 
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But I still think its ridiculous that we are holding illegals for 5-6 months or more. As you pointed out its costing us money. Have them sign the paperwork or get them to a hearing if they want to fight deportation and get them deported.
We didn't have enough immigration judges when this all started. There was a 2 million person backlog of cases. This huge extra expense was an inevitable consequence of detaining people without removing the bottleneck.
 
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We didn't have enough immigration judges when this all started. There was a 2 million person backlog of cases. This huge extra expense was an inevitable consequence of detaining people without removing the bottleneck.
In fact, I told y'all so, before Trump 2.0 even got started:

in the context of cutting the bloated federal budget... detaining people costs money. Increasing the number of detainees will require additional government spending.

If this will all be so efficient, why is Trump looking to increase the detention space? I already know why the prison-industrial complex is licking its lips at the idea.

I have simply pointed out that implementing this law will cost money, so the GOP will have to increase spending. Something that was included in the bipartisan immigration bill that Trump blew up.

The bipartisan immigration bill had money set aside to hire immigration judges, which would have sped up the caseload. Instead, we just have to wait for everyone to be processed legally before they can be deported. If they can feed and house themselves ... I don't see a good reason for the taxpayer to pay for it

And the GOP did increase spending:

ICE’s Budget Just Tripled. What’s Next?


But deportations have not tripled. However, we are housing and feeding record numbers of people in private facilities.
 
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That costs us money. It doea not give us money.

Who said this?

I have no problem with this. Particularly when we know that rye vast majority are not granted asylum and rhere is a large percentage who don't follow through with their hearings.

Probably because rhey don't really what their names are because the people aren't being honest.

But I still think its ridiculous that we are holding illegals for 5-6 months or more. As you pointed out its costing us money. Have them sign the paperwork or get them to a hearing if they want to fight deportation and get them deported.

I never said "we" got money. I said follow the money. They are being detained because people are making money off the detentions, as explained by GoldenBoy.

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That's a huge number of people, and it takes a lot of resources, a lot enforcement actions typically take a lot of planning, especially if you're focused on trying to get sort of people with significant criminality, criminal histories, which historically is who we've focused on, who ICE has focused on. I think the the aperture is broader now and it, honestly, it has to be to get that many arrests every day. Typically, if you're trying to conduct an enforcement action, you would surveil them. You would figure out patterns you would try and identify. You would make sure you know where they're going to be and when, so that when you conduct the enforcement action, you are conducting it in as safe and secure a manner as you can possibly do, both for the safety of the person you're picking up and for the ICE agents. By opening the aperture of numbers this way, it requires people to focus on who can we arrest quickly, rather than who is the most important person for us to arrest, which isn't necessarily the way they're talking about it. They're trying to focus on, you know, picking up the serious people with serious criminal histories. But it just doesn't stand to reason that you can arrest that many people around the country every day and be focused on the worst, the people with the worst criminal histories. You're going to be focused on the people who you can arrest most quickly, and those are the people who you have good addresses for.

June:

Top Trump aide Stephen Miller set a quote of 3,000 undocumented migrant arrests per day, in a meeting with ICE officials, according to two people who spoke with attendees. It comes as protestors confronted ICE agents during an immigration enforcement operation at a restaurant in San Diego. NBC News’ Liz Kreutz reports.


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