Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

[RocksInMyHead]

Go ahead and explain what the argument was then.

I was addressing the justification for killing people, not what actions should be taken.

The war on dugs began in 1971.

Calling something a war does not make it one. Personally, I think that using that language to characterize US drug enforcement operations was a mistake.

 

[wing2000]

Then it's probably high time it started considering how huge the drug epidemic has became and how many people have died from it.

If they were smuggling in anthrax that's been killing hundreds of Americans, would this stance against taking military action still stand?

How big does the epidemic have to get and how many more people have to die, before certain people agree that extreme measures need to be taken?

Sure, let's address effective ways to reduce the supply and demand for illegal drugs. Blowing up fishing boats over a thousand miles away from our sures isn't going to cut it.

 

[BCP1928]

Then it's probably high time it started considering how huge the drug epidemic has became and how many people have died from it.

How do you know we don't?

If they were smuggling in anthrax that's been killing hundreds of Americans, would this stance against taking military action still stand?

I certainly hope so. Killing those two survivors was unacceptable no matter what their boat was alleged to contain.

How big does the epidemic have to get and how many more people have to die, before certain people agree that extreme measures need to be taken?

Effective measures would be better.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Then it's probably high time it started considering how huge the drug epidemic has became and how many people have died from it.

If they were smuggling in anthrax that's been killing hundreds of Americans, would this stance against taking military action still stand?

How big does the epidemic have to get and how many more people have to die, before certain people agree that extreme measures need to be taken?

How about we start by treating drug addiction?

Where are this administration’s efforts on that front? Without a multilayered approach to the problem, it just seems like they’re only interested in killing certain people.

 

[essentialsaltes]

How about we start by treating drug addiction?

Where are this administration’s efforts on that front?

DOGEd

Trump team revokes $11 billion in funding for addiction, mental health care​

Drug overdoses linked to fentanyl and other substances have declined sharply in recent years, thanks in part to a surge in funding for addiction treatment during the Biden administration. But street drugs still kill more than 84,000 people in the U.S. every year, according to the latest data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

President Donald Trump has made fentanyl smuggling a top concern during the opening weeks of his administration, extending an emergency declaration linked to the powerful street opioid.

But his team has also rapidly slashed the number of federal researchers focused on addiction and Trump pardoned a tech mogul convicted of building a "dark web" platform used to traffic illicit drugs.

The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration is also being merged into a new organization, called the Administration for a Healthy America (AHA), as part of a restructuring of HHS that's expected to eliminate 20,000 federal employees.

 

[Hentenza]

Which they offered as Christians.

Do they represent all Christians?

No, I am not. I am only talking about those Christians who support the killing of those two men as a moral act.

In some of your earlier post you did indeed accused Christians in general which is why I replied to you the you paint with a very wide brush.

It includes all of those Christians I have spoken to who support the killing of those two men as a moral act.

There are 2.6 billion Christians in the world and you talked to how many? Five? Ten? Twenty?

That group includes you.

Yep. And I told you how I felt.

Right now I am talking to you and want to know how you as a Christian support the killing of those two men as a moral act.

I don’t support killing. I told you that the 6th commandment is foundational of Christianity so I’m not sure what you are after here.

 

[BCP1928]

Do they represent all Christians?

No, and neither do you

In some of your earlier post you did indeed accused Christians in general which is why I replied to you the you paint with a very wide brush.

And I explained that I did not. Sorry for the confusion.

There are 2.6 billion Christians in the world and you talked to how many? Five? Ten? Twenty?

About that, and none of them could answer my question.

Yep. And I told you how I felt.

I don’t support killing. I told you that the 6th commandment is foundational of Christianity so I’m not sure what you are after here.

So how do you justify killing the survivors of the boat attack? You suggested that it was immoral only if it was illegal, but that argument would need some fleshing out, especially as it has become clear even to the Trump administration that, whoever gave the order, it was illegal.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

DOGEd

Trump team revokes $11 billion in funding for addiction, mental health care​

Drug overdoses linked to fentanyl and other substances have declined sharply in recent years, thanks in part to a surge in funding for addiction treatment during the Biden administration. But street drugs still kill more than 84,000 people in the U.S. every year, according to the latest data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

President Donald Trump has made fentanyl smuggling a top concern during the opening weeks of his administration, extending an emergency declaration linked to the powerful street opioid.

But his team has also rapidly slashed the number of federal researchers focused on addiction and Trump pardoned a tech mogul convicted of building a "dark web" platform used to traffic illicit drugs.

The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration is also being merged into a new organization, called the Administration for a Healthy America (AHA), as part of a restructuring of HHS that's expected to eliminate 20,000 federal employees.

AHA, of course.

 

[Hentenza]

So how do you justify killing the survivors of the boat attack? You suggested that it was immoral only if it was illegal, but that argument would need some fleshing out, especially as it has become clear even to the Trump administration that, whoever gave the order, it was illegal.

Can you point to the post where I justified the killing of the two drug runners?

My brother, I have been explicit that I don’t support killing. There is nothing more for me to say.

 

[Perpetual Student]

I see "the leftists" call for the application of the rule of law.
This has been even pointed out previously.
But let me ask you directly: are you in favour of applying and protecting the rule of law, without ifs or buts and without exceptions?
Do you equate the advocatiing for the rule of law is loving criminals?

@Servus :
I have asked the questions above at least two times, yet haven't had an answer.
1) Are you in favour of applying and protecting the rule of law, without ifs or buts and without exceptions?
2) Do you equate the advocating for the rule of law is loving criminals?
and I add a third one:
3) Do you adhere to the principle that everybody is innocent until proven guilty?