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Over 90% of college students think 'words can be violence' after Kirk assassination: poll

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An overwhelming majority of college students believe that “words can be violence,” according to a new poll that found undergraduates are more reluctant to express their views on campus following the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression released a new reportTuesday examining students’ views on free speech following the assassinationof the TPUSA founder during a speech at Utah Valley University in September. The survey was conducted from Oct. 3-31, sampling 2,028 undergraduates nationwide and 204 students at Utah Valley University.

The survey asked students whether they felt more or less comfortable engaging in a variety of activities following Kirk’s Sept. 10 assassination. A majority of Utah Valley University students felt a “great deal” or “slightly” less comfortable expressing their views on “a controversial political topic during an in class discussion” (68%), expressing their views on “a controversial political topic to other students during a discussion in a campus common space” (64%), and expressing controversial political opinions to classmates on social media (65%).

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An overwhelming majority of college students believe that “words can be violence,” according to a new poll that found undergraduates are more reluctant to express their views on campus following the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression released a new reportTuesday examining students’ views on free speech following the assassinationof the TPUSA founder during a speech at Utah Valley University in September. The survey was conducted from Oct. 3-31, sampling 2,028 undergraduates nationwide and 204 students at Utah Valley University.

The survey asked students whether they felt more or less comfortable engaging in a variety of activities following Kirk’s Sept. 10 assassination. A majority of Utah Valley University students felt a “great deal” or “slightly” less comfortable expressing their views on “a controversial political topic during an in class discussion” (68%), expressing their views on “a controversial political topic to other students during a discussion in a campus common space” (64%), and expressing controversial political opinions to classmates on social media (65%).

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If words can be violence then what is actual 'violence' violence to be called? Apologies to Whoopie.

Is burning a building down 'mostly peaceful'?

How soon will the Second Amendment to the constitution be repealed? Or, maybe more likely if the revolutionaries get their way, will free speech never make it into a successor constitution?
 
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Psychological or emotional violence, yes, I can agree. Depends on what it is said and how it is addressed.
 
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An overwhelming majority of college students believe that “words can be violence,” according to a new poll that found undergraduates are more reluctant to express their views on campus following the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression released a new reportTuesday examining students’ views on free speech following the assassinationof the TPUSA founder during a speech at Utah Valley University in September. The survey was conducted from Oct. 3-31, sampling 2,028 undergraduates nationwide and 204 students at Utah Valley University.

The survey asked students whether they felt more or less comfortable engaging in a variety of activities following Kirk’s Sept. 10 assassination. A majority of Utah Valley University students felt a “great deal” or “slightly” less comfortable expressing their views on “a controversial political topic during an in class discussion” (68%), expressing their views on “a controversial political topic to other students during a discussion in a campus common space” (64%), and expressing controversial political opinions to classmates on social media (65%).

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Analytically speaking, I'd prefer to hear folks just use the older conception of 'verbal abuse,' since we all know that has been a thing for quite some time.
 
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They call words violence so they can react violently. It isn't surprising. The number of unhinged people that can't simply walk by a banner or a stall where people are inviting discussion without causing disruption or danage says a lot.
 
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They call words violence so they can react violently.
I think this is really it. They respond to 'violence' with violence, 'hate' with hate, and against 'Nazis' with brownshirt tactics. It all makes real sense now.
 
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They call words violence so they can react violently.
100% agree because then they're just "defending" themselves. Not that this logic would ever fly in court, but that's not the point. It's their own moral compass.

You know, when history says Rome fell from within, I seriously get it now.
 
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100% agree because then they're just "defending" themselves. Not that this logic would ever fly in court, but that's not the point. It's their own moral compass.

You know, when history says Rome fell from within, I seriously get it now.
At least part of the blame for the fall of Rome could be blamed on the lead added to wine to clarify it. Fancy wines were 'claret' but the cheap stuff the commoners drank needed the Pb additive to clarify it. In part, they poisoned themselves. But agreed it was mostly a moral compass issue.
 
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