Now does everyone understand why the "right to refuse illegal orders" video was made?

[Always in His Presence]

All the accusation needs is proof.

A Washington Post article from yet another unnamed source that was so bad even The NY Times had to correct it is not proof.

 

[wing2000]

Have the footage? Or any evidence whatsoever that any accusations actually occured?

As you well know, the Pete Hegseth has not released the video or any other information.
However, when the commanding officer who, according to the White House, was "authorized" to carry out the order, testifies before the Senate Armed Services Committee, we will have some answers.

 

[Larniavc]

The White House on Monday confirmed a second strike in September had killed wounded civilians after the first effort failed, and put responsibility largely on the naval commander leading the mission.

Why is this such a big deal? American police kill people all the time. The person issuing the order may have felt threatened.

 

[NxNW]

Why is this such a big deal? American police kill people all the time. The person issuing the order may have felt threatened.

Gosh, I hope this is sarcasm.

 

[MarcusGregor]

All the accusation needs is proof.

A Washington Post article from yet another unnamed source that was so bad even The NY Times had to correct it is not proof.

Apparently there is video of the incident that hasn't been released to the public and the administration has admitted that it happened and are now passing the blame between the Admiral and Hegseth.

 

[MarcusGregor]

Show me the proof that any of this actually happened.

There is footage, but it hasn't been released to the public. The administration has admitted that it happened and are passing the blame between the admiral and Hegseth. The fact that it happened is not in dispute.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Apparently there is video of the incident that hasn't been released to the public and the administration has admitted that it happened and are now passing the blame between the Admiral and Hegseth.

And the part where the Secretary of War told them to "kill them all" - how is that going.

 

[MarcusGregor]

And the part where the Secretary of War told them to "kill them all" - how is that going.

Not really relevant. It doesn't matter what words were used. The incident happened. The law was broken. Who needs to go to prison for war crimes? Thats really the only question that needs to be answered now.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Not really relevant. It doesn't matter what words were used. The incident happened. The law was broken. Who needs to go to prison for war crimes? Thats really the only question that needs to be answered now.

Completely relevant - it is what started this whole fluff and stuff - if one part is made up - how do you know what else is made up? There are no military experts here - no one here has been in the room when all this was happening, and the left and their propaganda media will not, for any reason at any time, believe anything that comers from the administration.

So they will bloviate for as long as it get's people riled up.

again.

 

[MarcusGregor]

Completely relevant - it is what started this whole fluff and stuff - if one part is made up - how do you know what else is made up? There are no military experts here - no one here has been in the room when all this was happening, and the left and their propaganda media will not, for any reason at any time, believe anything that comers from the administration.

So they will bloviate for as long as it get's people riled up.

again.

Well, yeah. We're all going off of reporting and information released to the public. What else would be expected on a public forum? What else should we talk about in this thread about this incident?

But it remains that the incident apparently did happen and there will (should) be accountability.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

There are no military experts here

Incorrect, there are at least twelve military experts here. They obviously aren't serving but they are experts. I have noticed them since the Afghanistan withdraw. Total experts on everything.

no one here has been in the room when all this was happening

I know a guy who was six nautical miles away, 12,235 yards, who watched it happen live.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Well, yeah. We're all going off of reporting and information released to the public. What else would be expected on a public forum? What else should we talk about in this thread about this incident?

But it remains that the incident apparently did happen and there will (should) be accountability.

I'm responding to your previous comment:

The incident happened. The law was broken. Who needs to go to prison for war crimes? Thats really the only question that needs to be answered now.

Before a charge is laid
Before any discovery is done
Before there is a court martial

We sit back listening to news sources who are reporting unsubstantiated claims - the first one already proven false - and you are suggesting that the only thing left is finding someone to go to jail.

Really?