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Minnesota is drowning in fraud.

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I haven't seen any proof at all. And neither have you.
Why should the DOJ release it to you or me? Again, just because you have not seen the evidence, which you are not entitled to, doesnt mean it does not exist. So how do you know that there is no evidence?
 
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The Trump administration is looking into whether Minnesota tax money found its way to al Shabaab, a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization and al Qaeda affiliate based in Somalia, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said Monday.

Bessent wrote on X that the Treasury is "investigating allegations that under the feckless mismanagement of the Biden Administration and Governor Tim Walz, hardworking Minnesotans' tax dollars may have been diverted to the terrorist organization Al-Shabaab."

The Treasury secretary shared a Nov. 19 report in the conservative publication City Journal that alleged millions of dollars from Minnesota state welfare programs had "ultimately landed in the hands of the terror group Al-Shabaab," citing law enforcement sources. Several Minnesota Republicans, including Rep. Tom Emmer, pushed federal prosecutors to look into the allegations.
 
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Why should the DOJ release it to you or me? Again, just because you have not seen the evidence, which you are not entitled to, doesnt mean it does not exist. So how do you know that there is no evidence?
So you nor I have any knowledge of any information that proves the claim. Just like I said.
 
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The Trump administration is looking into whether Minnesota tax money found its way to al Shabaab, a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization and al Qaeda affiliate based in Somalia, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said Monday.

Bessent wrote on X that the Treasury is "investigating allegations that under the feckless mismanagement of the Biden Administration and Governor Tim Walz, hardworking Minnesotans' tax dollars may have been diverted to the terrorist organization Al-Shabaab."

The Treasury secretary shared a Nov. 19 report in the conservative publication City Journal that alleged millions of dollars from Minnesota state welfare programs had "ultimately landed in the hands of the terror group Al-Shabaab," citing law enforcement sources. Several Minnesota Republicans, including Rep. Tom Emmer, pushed federal prosecutors to look into the allegations.
Thanks for that. From the Office of Legislative Auditor linked to that article:
OLA ASSESSMENT

Stillman’s statements and the Fox 9 stories created a strong and disturbing picture of individuals in Minnesota defrauding the state’s Child Care Assistance Program and sending the money to foreign countries where terrorists have obtained the money to fund their organizations and operations. Despite the serious nature of the allegation, neither Stillman nor Fox 9 presented specific evidence to substantiate the allegation. We asked Stillman for evidence that connected Minnesota CCAP fraud money to a terrorist organization, but he did not provide it to us. He said investigators and law enforcement agencies had the evidence. We sought the evidence from investigators, law enforcement officials, prosecutors, and court records, but did not find it there either.
Having not found evidence that clearly and directly connected CCAP fraud money to a terrorist organization in a foreign country, we examined the circumstantial evidence that Stillman has referenced in making the allegation. We think it is important to acknowledge that evidence in this report. First, as we discussed in Chapter 2, several individuals with connections to Somalia have been convicted of defrauding the Child Care Assistance Program."
In other words, just like the OP article and claims made by poster's here, the allegations have no proof.
And when the claimants are asked for proof by the Auditors office, they provide none.
 
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Since we are all concerned with fraud within the HHS. Can anyone name the largest case of fraud given HHS?

Largest Justice Department Health Care Fraud Takedown in History More than Doubles Prior Record of $6 Billion

The Justice Department today announced the results of its 2025 National Health Care Fraud Takedown, which resulted in criminal charges against 324 defendants, including 96 doctors, nurse practitioners, pharmacists, and other licensed medical professionals, in 50 federal districts and 12 State Attorneys General’s Offices across the United States, for their alleged participation in various health care fraud schemes involving over $14.6 billion in intended loss. The Takedown involved federal and state law enforcement agencies across the country and represents an unprecedented effort to combat health care fraud schemes that exploit patients and taxpayers.
I do realize they are not Somalians, nor are they Muslim. But it makes them look like rank armatures.

I'm sure they have a Trump Pardon coming in the mail.

Simply proclaim they were politically prosecuted and Trump will pardon them.
 
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In Landmark Sentence, Feeding Our Future Scheme Leader Sentenced to 28 Years in Prison

MINNEAPOLIS – Today, United States District Judge Nancy E. Brasel sentenced Abdiaziz Shafii Farah, age 36, to 28 years in prison followed by 3 years of supervised release for his role in a $300 million fraud scheme that exploited a federally funded child nutrition program during the COVID-19 pandemic, announced Acting U.S. Attorney Joseph H. Thompson. Farah was also ordered to pay restitution in the amount of $47,920,514.

Farah played a leading and role in the Feeding Our Future case, the largest Covid-19 fraud scheme in the United States. According to public documents, Farah and his co-defendants stole more than $47 million in program funds by claiming to serve 18 million meals to kids at more than 30 food distribution sites. In June 2024, after a seven-week trial before Judge Brasel, a federal jury convicted Farah of conspiracy to commit wire fraud, conspiracy to commit federal programs bribery, false statements in a passport application, conspiracy to commit money laundering, two counts of federal programs bribery, six counts of wire fraud, and 11 counts of money laundering.
In other news.

 
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Come on now, North. Are we really going to argue semantics here? Even democrats agree Pelosi is corrupt when it comes to insider trading.
Show me the indictment and conviction. You must have her confused with Martha Stewart.
 
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Show me the indictment and conviction. You must have her confused with Martha Stewart.
Alright so you've decided we are going to argue semantics here. Just know that if you want to remain consistent you no longer have the right to accuse Trump of insider trading with his crypto/DWAC grift (since he doesn't have an insider trading indictment or conviction). That's the fun part about having the integrity to call out wrongdoing wherever it may be. I myself as a Republican have the moral consistency hold him accountable for insider trading but you don't since you don't ALSO want to implicate Pelosi, lol
 
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Alright so you've decided we are going to argue semantics here.
Lack of indictment and lack of conviction are semantics?
Just know that if you want to remain consistent you no longer have the right to accuse Trump of insider trading with his crypto/DWAC grift (since he doesn't have an insider trading indictment or conviction).
I never made such an accusation.
That's the fun part about having the integrity to call out wrongdoing wherever it may be. I myself as a Republican have the moral consistency hold him accountable for insider trading but you don't since you don't ALSO want to implicate Pelosi, lol
When did I say anything about Trump and insider trading?
 
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Lack of indictment and lack of conviction are semantics?

Yes. And just because a law doesn't currently exist preventing a politician's husband from running a hedge fund doesn't mean she didn't commit insider trading. Insider trading is the purchase or sale of a publicly traded company’s securities while in possession of material, nonpublic information (MNPI) that could significantly impact the company’s stock price. Are you legitimately going to tell me she is not in possession of material nonpublic information that could significantly impact a company's stock price? I won't hold my breath for a yes/no on that question. Possessing nonpublic information is in a politician's job description as far as I and anyone else is concerned.

I never made such an accusation.

And you have foolishly forfeited your right to ever make it

When did I say anything about Trump and insider trading?
When did I say you did?
 
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Yes. And just because a law doesn't currently exist preventing a politician's husband from running a hedge fund doesn't mean she didn't commit insider trading. Insider trading is the purchase or sale of a publicly traded company’s securities while in possession of material, nonpublic information (MNPI) that could significantly impact the company’s stock price.
Very good.
Are you legitimately going to tell me she is not in possession of material nonpublic information that could significantly impact a company's stock price?
It's not a crime to be in possession of inside information. It's a crime to trade based on that knowledge.
I won't hold my breath for a yes/no on that question. Possessing nonpublic information is in a politician's job description as far as I and anyone else is concerned.
See above.
And you have foolishly forfeited your right to ever make it
Don't hold your breath.
When did I say you did?
So you were arguing against something I never said?
 
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Bessent orders Treasury investigation into possible diversion of Minnesota tax dollars to terrorists

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent announced Monday that the Treasury will launch an investigation into allegations of a Minnesota fraud scheme purportedly mishandled under Gov. Tim Walz (D-MN).

“At my direction, @USTreasury is investigating allegations that under the feckless mismanagement of the Biden Administration and Governor Tim Walz, hardworking Minnesotans’ tax dollars may have been diverted to the terrorist organization Al-Shabaab,” Bessent wrote on X.
 
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Minnesota DHS workers accuse Gov. Walz of ignoring fraud warnings


MINNEAPOLIS (NewsNation) — Hundreds of Minnesota Department of Human Services employees are allegedly accusing Gov. Tim Walz on social media of ignoring early warnings about massive fraud and retaliating against whistleblowers in a scandal that allegedly funneled over $1 billion in taxpayer funds to fraudulent operations.
 
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I'm about to reply to every individual thing here but can we just pause here for a second and zoom out? Nancy Pelosi's annualized return in the last 5 years is 22.8%. Berkshire Hathaway, the best investment firm in the WORLD's annualized return of the last 5 years is 13.6%, nearly HALF that.

There are three options here:

1. Occam's razor: She trades on nonpublic information that she has access to by being a politician/insider
2. She is an 85 year old house of representatives member fishing for geriatric Facebook approval by pulling stunts like this who also moonlights as one of the greatest investment geniuses of our time on the side
3. She just got lucky with a few stocks

Don't avoid the question, North. I genuinely wanna see which one you pick

Very good.

Thank you sir

It's not a crime to be in possession of inside information. It's a crime to trade based on that knowledge.

And I'm sure it's going to be a real picnic to prosecute a highly powerful person based on their private thoughts

See above.

You've said nothing. We both admit she has nonpublic info on companies right? And we both admit she trades stocks? So where is the hang up? That alone is enough to warrant insider trading on a moral basis, if not a legal basis

Don't hold your breath.

I'm glad I didn't because you still didn't answer yes or no

So you were arguing against something I never said?

It wasn't an argument, it was an informative statement.
 
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