Trump Says US Will Permanently Pause Migration From 'Third World Countries'

[BCP1928]

No more freebees for those who are able to work a job but don't want to.

Of course you could always try offering them better jobs.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I'm afraid you'd have to go back a lot further than that, probably pre-Reagan, for US conservative Christians to support welfare and other means of helping the poor.

What's changed more recently is the nationalist anti-immigration tack. Foreigners coming to our shores (legally) were, once upon a time, "future Americans". Reagan spoke of America as a "beacon of hope". Now the light's been snuffed out.

Pre civil rights. Backlash to welfare programs came when it was perceived as helping too many undeserving and undesirable blacks. Over time, the rhetoric and policies that were once explicitly racist (e.g. closing public pools because they were required to admit blacks) morphed into being superficially race-neutral (but fairly dog-whistle-ish wherein "poor" was interpreted as "black") and then, after a couple generations, ultimately became just anti-poor.

 

[Perpetual Student]

I would agree to the two way approach, if there were only a medication that takes away the shaking, and panic involved in drug withdrawal. If such a drug existed, in patch or pill form, then we could say that we stand a chance at reducing the demand aspect.

...But until such a medication exists, out of 48.4 million abusers in the U.S., recovery will remain impossible for the 12 million ( 25%) who, as it stands, will never recover.

Alcohol and Drug Abuse Statistics (Facts About Addiction) https://share.google/2G40rPOXyPFvK8c5Z

This is a world chart amphetamine deaths per capita. The USA is in the darkest colour.

Opioids, Cocaine, Cannabis, and Other Illicit Drugs

How common is the use and addiction to opioids, cocaine, amphetamines and cannabis? What is the impact?

ourworldindata.org

On this page other charts with slightly different statistics are available. Nearly always the USA is in the darkest colour. Instead of saying "we don't have a pill, we can't do anything", you should ask yourself (well competent authorities should do that) "what do other countries do different and what can we apply here?".
Other nations didn't wait for medication to come, why is the Greatest Nation on Earth, with the Greatest President ever waiting for?

 

[Perpetual Student]

"We lead the world in only three categories. Number one the number incarcerated citizens per capita. Number two, the number of adults who believe angels are real and defense spending"

Add to that number one in amphetamines deaths per capita.

 

[BasedLutheran]

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Now I wanna see what the Saturday Night Live version is going to be like.

Should we send the Statue of Liberty back to France? It seems out of place now.

Why would you say that? What about the Statue of Liberty seems out of place now?

 

[BasedLutheran]

First off Trump needs to be briefed on "Third World" nations. It is rude and condescending.
To google ai: The proper terms to replace "third world nations" are developing countries, least developed countries (LDCs), and the Global South. These terms are more accurate and less pejorative than "third world," which is an outdated Cold War term that is now considered demeaning

Secondly, Trump is not stopping all developing nation migration, but a subset of 19 developing nations. Hopefully, they have identifed the riskier ones. I would suggest that Laos is not sending the USA bad poeple. I asked google AI and:

While there have been notable criminal cases involving individuals of Laotian descent in the US, sources do not explicitly link these to threats posed by current Laotian visa holders in the US, nor do they specify cases of serious trouble caused by individuals strictly after receiving a US visa.

The issues cited by the US government regarding Laos are centered on high visa overstay rates and the Laotian government's failure to cooperate with the US in accepting the return of its nationals subject to final orders of removal.

I have said elsewhere but vetting is not enough. The USA needs to monitor new visa holders esepcially those from who arrive from "risky nations." I think too that the policies should be amended to target the risk. A 60 year old mother in law from Burma going to an American family poses no risk to America. A 20-35 year old male, with military expereince does.

It matters because I know Amercans waiting for family members to get their visas. Such delays with legal immigration create massive hardships for some and are detrimental to America. One friend I have is waiting for his wife's visa from an Asian nation. A builder by trade who would be creating housing supplly for the USA and income, sitting on hold overseas now over a year, waiting on the USA.

No one cares about politcally correct speech nonsense anymore. Third World nations are precisely what they are and precisely what they will remain

 

[Nithavela]

No one cares about politcally correct speech nonsense anymore. Third World nations are precisely what they are and precisely what they will remain

Welcome to Christian Forums.

 

[BCP1928]

No one cares about politcally correct speech nonsense anymore. Third World nations are precisely what they are and precisely what they will remain

They will if MAGA has anything to say about it.

 

[BasedLutheran]

They will if MAGA has anything to say about it.

Good! They can remain in the festering holes they dug for themselves and not bring it here

 

[BCP1928]

Good! They can remain in the festering holes they dug for themselves and not bring it here

Otherwise people might begin to realize who dug the holes.

 

[BCP1928]

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I can see you haven't been anywhere in the third world yourself recently.

 

[Hans Blaster]

No one cares about politcally correct speech nonsense anymore. Third World nations are precisely what they are and precisely what they will remain

"Third world" is archaic Cold War language referring to nations not aligned with the US or the USSR. It is out of date by 1/3 of a century. Whatever meaning it had 40 years ago is gone. Use words that still have meaning.

 

[Landon Caeli]

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This is a world chart amphetamine deaths per capita. The USA is in the darkest colour.

Opioids, Cocaine, Cannabis, and Other Illicit Drugs

How common is the use and addiction to opioids, cocaine, amphetamines and cannabis? What is the impact?

ourworldindata.org

On this page other charts with slightly different statistics are available. Nearly always the USA is in the darkest colour. Instead of saying "we don't have a pill, we can't do anything", you should ask yourself (well competent authorities should do that) "what do other countries do different and what can we apply here?".
Other nations didn't wait for medication to come, why is the Greatest Nation on Earth, with the Greatest President ever waiting for?

No countries that I am aware of are resolving "addiction", though some, such as with Switzerland have curbed overdose deaths by providing syringe exchanges and safe injecting rooms. That's two different things.

I'm not interesting in safer drug use. I'm interested in finding a revolutionary medication that stops addictive inclinations. The tremors, the panic attacks that people experience - those are unfair disadvantages in making normal decisions. I'm proposing a new, revolutionary direction that will both save lives, and curb addiction - a  total solution, as opposed to a half solution.

I'm proposing a better solution than what is found anywhere else.

 

[Landon Caeli]

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"We lead the world in only three categories. Number one the number incarcerated citizens per capita. Number two, the number of adults who believe angels are real and defense spending"

Add to that number one in amphetamines deaths per capita.

What sickens me the most, is that when we had an incurable pandemic, we were able to develop a vaccine lickety split. But that's because everyone was a potential victim.

...With drug addiction, it's meh.

 

[FreeinChrist]

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[FaithT]

Let's hope so.

Hate and destroy…..is he talking about himself too?

 

[Pommer]

No one cares about politcally correct speech nonsense anymore. Third World nations are precisely what they are and precisely what they will remain

Ergo West Virginia

 

[Yttrium]

Why would you say that? What about the Statue of Liberty seems out of place now?

Well, it's really just the plaque that needs to get replaced. Especially the part that says:

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

It doesn't really apply any more.

 

[Servus]

Of course you could always try offering them better jobs.

One where they don't have to actually do anything and it comes with high pay and premium benefits.

 

[Servus]

Sounds to me like we should ban the inheriting of money.

Tax payers don't fund inheritance.