Relative of Trump Press Secretary taken by ICE

[durangodawood]

Says the auto pen.

Im ok with letting people out when the law changes to consider their offense much lighter than when they when in. Or not an offense at all. Mainly I object to handing out pardons to personal supporters. Ive seen presidents of all types do this. But recently its gone completely over the top.

But this is the mantra of the left. Do you deny it? Why not put your money where your mouth is and send that woman back home?

I do think immigration should be managed per laws. But I dont view illegal immigrants who just want to live, work, and be good neighbors as criminals in the same way as people who steal, kill, harass, intentionally defraud others, etc.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

You offer a good analysis. This brand of populism that attracts those that scapegoat immigrants is a real problem for the GOP. Combine that with a slowing economy, a farming crisis, higher inflation and the perfect storm is arriving. The GOP is near certain to lose the House in the midterms. I think the GOP will have to rebrand themselves and look beyond Trump loyalists to move forward. Instead of a lasting realignment, the results will be similar to Nixon, even to the point that Trump may retire from office or just last his term out as a lame duck President.

Several political realignments are anticipated in the 2028 election cycle.

Immigration is an issue that both political parties must address with greater seriousness. President Trump's policies of mass deportation risk alienating Hispanic voters from the GOP; however, this does not guarantee the Democratic Party will automatically gain their support. Recent elections have demonstrated that simply discussing relaxed immigration policies or promising reform, as the DNC has done over the past two decades, is not an effective strategy—Hispanic voters recognize insincerity. Furthermore, election results indicate that a majority of Americans support secure borders and legal entry for those who complete the proper processes. At the same time, there is a desire to show compassion toward undocumented individuals currently residing in the United States. The public largely supports deporting violent criminals, while providing those who contribute positively to society with a pathway to legal status and citizenship. These views are strongly reflected within the Hispanic American community.

The party that implements these policies will appeal to Hispanic American voters. Currently, the GOP shows little interest in such measures, while the DNC seems to believe that appealing rhetoric alone is sufficient.

Pope Leo is expected to take a more active role in American politics and culture, particularly influencing Hispanic voters, most of whom are Catholic. His voice could surpass that of politicians over time. I think Pope Leo will redefine the “pro-life” definition. While Protestant Americans may not heed him, Hispanic Americans will. If the GOP does not adjust its stance, it risks losing its claim as the pro-life party.

Neither party appears prepared for the future. The DNC lacks a strong immigration policy favored by most Americans and does not reach out to devout Christians, while the GOP seems to believe the Trump presidency model will last indefinitely.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

Says the auto pen. But this is the mantra of the left. Do you deny it? Why not put your money where your mouth is and send that woman back home?

Perhaps history isn't your strongest subject. However, the last President to pardon undocumented immigrants was a Republican. In fact, this Republican President was so influential that many conservatives refer to him as the father of modern conservatism. Can you guess who it was?

 

[FenderTL5]

I'd presume that Ms Ferreira wasn't on KKKaroline's turkey-day guest-list to begin with.

 

[RileyG]

"Mother of nephew" = sister-in-law. A sister-in-law that should have went home back in 1999. No one, including relatives of Trump's own staff, is above the law.

Agreed!

 

[DaisyDay]

"Mother of nephew" = sister-in-law. A sister-in-law that should have went home back in 1999. No one, including relatives of Trump's own staff, is above the law.

No, a sister-in-law is either a sibling's wife or a spouse's sister, with the "in-law" meaning by marriage. A nephew's mother may not be married to her son's father, who may have a different woman for a wife.

 

[Valletta]

I don’t think you read the rest of my post, so I’ll repeat myself. This story isn’t limited to just this family—it represents millions of Hispanic, Cuban, and other Latino Americans. Many Americans with South American ancestry have relatives who are not legal residents of the United States. These mass deportations are affecting them. The poll indicates that 70% of the Hispanic community do not support President Trump’s policy of mass deportation.

Those who are dissatisfied may not heed your suggestion to "then go with his mother." Instead, if they are of legal age, they are likely to vote for another party, which could place the Republican Party at a disadvantage for at least a generation. Millions of Hispanic Americans affected by this policy may never vote for the GOP again.

You seem only interested in mass deportation over the next three years, without concern for whether the GOP wins future national elections.

I, on the other hand, disagree with President Trump on many issue but still care about the Republican Party. I hope that after 2028, the GOP will become moderate, perhaps following the examples of Ronald Reagan or John McCain, and move forward. However, this cannot happen if the majority of Hispanic voters despise the GOP.

I put Reagan and McCain at the opposite ends of the GOP spectrum. I don't care about the future of the Republican Party or any political party, the welfare of our country is more important than any party. Being a fair weather politician, changing positions based on "how things might look" at the moment to voters rather than doing the right thing is what does damage to our country. I consider a good portion of the major media as essentially being a wing of the Democratic Party, they have a lot of wealth behind them, and realize that at times they are successful in pushing a narrative despite the facts. Whether it is claiming the border is safe, secure, and closed, the various hoaxes, or the current name calling against Trump, pretending he is a racist and hates immigrants, etc., the truth can be at least temporarily hidden from the American people. There are still huge numbers of human trafficking victims who need to be rescued and large number of violent criminals that need to be deported. It may be too late for some of the children lost by the Biden administration, and too late for the murder victims of unvetted illegals, but the the Trump team will continue to try to help those in need.

 

[Larniavc]

ICE arrests woman with family connection to White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt -
ABC News ICE arrests woman with family connection to White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt

U.S. immigration authorities have detained a woman who is the mother of White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt's nephew, according to a source familiar with the arrest.

The White House declined to comment.

So her sister in law?

 

[Larniavc]

So, technically not the sister-in-law anymore.

Ah, so they are probably either sexually immoral or not Christian.

The deportation is this valid. I imagine.

 

[Larniavc]

Not even as they were not married.

Living in sin? Deportation!

 

[Larniavc]

They are related through the nephew.

Not unless sanctioned by God. The nephew is simply evidence of immoral sexualism.

 

[MarkSB]

Says the auto pen. But this is the mantra of the left. Do you deny it? Why not put your money where your mouth is and send that woman back home?

Hmm. A woman whose story we don't know, but who could have came here to escape a bad situation and seek a better life. Is it breaking the law by staying here undocumented? Yes. But still something I would wager many of us might do in that situation. A much more understandable offense than say:

1. George Santos: Convicted of fraud. Even admitted to it, if I'm not mistaken. Pardoned by Trump.
2. January 6th Offenders: Violent offenders who stormed the capital, resulting in the eventual deaths of several capital police officers. Given a blanket pardon by Trump.
3. Rudy Giuliani et. al: Conspirators in the fake electors plot. Also pardoned by Trump. At least Giuliani still has civil suits against him, but he should be held accountable to the full extent of the law.

Take all those, and compare them to "the woman" who seems so decidedly evil in your eyes. Do you think the God who you claim to support would take the same stance as you?

 

[Perpetual Student]

[...]Many Americans with South American ancestry have relatives who are not legal residents of the United States. These mass deportations are affecting them. The poll indicates that 70% of the Hispanic community do not support President Trump’s policy of mass deportation.

Those who are dissatisfied may not heed your suggestion to "then go with his mother." Instead, if they are of legal age, they are likely to vote for another party, which could place the Republican Party at a disadvantage for at least a generation. Millions of Hispanic Americans affected by this policy may never vote for the GOP again.

You seem only interested in mass deportation over the next three years, without concern for whether the GOP wins future national elections.

I, on the other hand, disagree with President Trump on many issue but still care about the Republican Party. I hope that after 2028, the GOP will become moderate, perhaps following the examples of Ronald Reagan or John McCain, and move forward. However, this cannot happen if the majority of Hispanic voters despise the GOP.

Are you suggesting that a Republican administration should ignore law breaking, just to gain some petty votes?

 

[FenderTL5]

Are you suggesting that a Republican administration should ignore law breaking, just to gain some petty votes?

Why not, the GOP constituency has proven that law-breaking and criminal conviction(s) are of no consequence to them.

 

[NxNW]

Not unless sanctioned by God. The nephew is simply evidence of immoral sexualism.

I guess Trump needs to go!

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

Are you suggesting that a Republican administration should ignore law breaking, just to gain some petty votes?

The law of the land is subject to change in response to societal needs and values. There have been periods when owning a slave was legally permissible, and sheltering a runaway slave constituted a violation of the law. Therefore, relying solely on the argument that "we should not break the law" can be seen as a straw man position. Laws are enacted or amended to reflect the evolving requirements of society.

In a democracy, laws reflect the concerns and desires of citizens. A majority of Americans support both secure borders and providing a pathway to citizenship for individuals who have lived in the United States for 10 or 20 years without a criminal record. However, it appears that approximately 35% of Americans do not agree with this approach and instead favor deporting all undocumented immigrants.

Republican Party today argue that individuals who have broken the law should be subject to punishment. However, demographic trends suggest that Hispanic Americans are having a significant impact on future political dynamics, and it appears likely that the GOP could remain out of power for an extended period. The decision rests with the GOP: whether to actively participate in shaping solutions or remain on the sidelines as an increasingly irrelevant opposition.

Without those "petty votes," the GOP risks becoming an irrelevant opposition party. Most Republicans either aren't considering the future or don't care about the country's fate after 2028, as long as they get what they want now.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

I put Reagan and McCain at the opposite ends of the GOP spectrum. I don't care about the future of the Republican Party or any political party, the welfare of our country is more important than any party. Being a fair weather politician, changing positions based on "how things might look" at the moment to voters rather than doing the right thing is what does damage to our country. I consider a good portion of the major media as essentially being a wing of the Democratic Party, they have a lot of wealth behind them, and realize that at times they are successful in pushing a narrative despite the facts. Whether it is claiming the border is safe, secure, and closed, the various hoaxes, or the current name calling against Trump, pretending he is a racist and hates immigrants, etc., the truth can be at least temporarily hidden from the American people. There are still huge numbers of human trafficking victims who need to be rescued and large number of violent criminals that need to be deported. It may be too late for some of the children lost by the Biden administration, and too late for the murder victims of unvetted illegals, but the the Trump team will continue to try to help those in need.

I understand that you may not be concerned about Gop's future—this is the unfortunate reality of modern American democracy. Whenever a party gains power, they believe it is their moment to enact lasting change and reshape America permanently. The Obama coalition felt this way when they came into office, just as the Trump administration believed they would transform the country for generations. President Biden also thought he could be a transformative leader, even if he sometimes appeared unsteady. Now, once again, President Trump and his supporters are confident that they will reshape America for years to come.

The reality is that unless you and others prioritize the future of the Republican Party, by January 2029, either President AOC or President Newsom may take office with significant congressional support, reminiscent of when President Obama entered the White House in 2009 with sixty Democratic senators.

Do you know what might happen? President AOC could undo every accomplishment from President Trump’s last four years in office. President Newsom could open up the border, launch an app, and invite all the foreigners who were deported by President Trump to return—this time with expedited legal status on a U.S.-funded plan. Meanwhile, the media would still be there to praise President AOC and President Newsom.

Perhaps it's worth considering the future of GOP, wouldn't you agree?

I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican, but I believe both parties should hold each other accountable, and that government power should be balanced by different branches. A healthy democracy requires more than one strong political party.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Take all those, and compare them to "the woman" who seems so decidedly evil in your eyes.

I do not think she is evil.

 

[Valletta]

I understand that you may not be concerned about Gop's future—this is the unfortunate reality of modern American democracy. Whenever a party gains power, they believe it is their moment to enact lasting change and reshape America permanently.

It was the Obama administration, and many with similar political ideas who ran the Biden administration, that tried to fundamentally change our country and abandon many established values. We came close to seeing a packed Supreme Court, the defunding of police, the removal of the filibuster, government controlled health care, a heavily regulated economy, the propagandizing of school children and shutting down moms who spoke at school boards, destruction of our border laws, the elevation of criminal illegals to rock star status, the persecution of pro-lifers and other Christians, an attack against our election system with an effort to stop the leading candidate for President from campaigning and the executive branch colluding with social media to defeat him, crazy lavish spending that caused runaway inflation, DEI, CRT, and other forms of racism established, an authoritarian government that would dictate what kind of car you could drive and what type of stove, and a Ministry of Truth. Trump won the election much because of his stance on deporting illegals while having those who apply legally and are legally approved welcomed to our country, controlling crime, and an improved economy. That's not going to change.

 

[MarkSB]

I do not think she is evil.

Well, yeah - hence the word "seems" in my sentence. I don't know your inner thoughts, so can only go by what you've posted. From the tone of your posts, there seems to be a complete lack of compassion for the situation which the deportation of a parent of a U.S. citizen creates. Is undocumented immigration against the law? Yes. But do you show the same disdain for the law breakers who are pardoned by our president - and by my estimation, who have committed much more egregious crimes?

I don't know about you, but I can much more easily find compassion in my heart for the deported parent than I can for the criminals who Trump pardons on a regular basis. It's hypocrisy on complete display.