Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

[Dreyma]

A hellish experience of some sort likely exists. The important question is whether it is endless / everlasting as commonly taught.

It is unlikely that a just God would punish limited people with unlimited torture.

I hope you're right. That does seem more just to me.

 

[JulieB67]

It is unlikely that a just God would punish limited people with unlimited torture.

Exactly

 

[Lukaris]

I hope you're right. That does seem more just to me.

I believe much of salvation by grace and the idea of works ( Ephesians 2:8-10) is a simple hope for the salvation of others. The Lord’s Prayer ( Matthew 6:9-13) is as much for ourselves as well as others. Jesus Christ tells us to pray for evangelists and evangelism ( Matthew 9:36-38). Paul tells us the purpose of this in 1 Timothy 2:1-6.

I am not speaking as some kind of pseudo sublime guy; I often feel frustrated in daily life. Hell is unfortunately real but not inevitable to anyone. This is why I so strongly believe in the golden rule ( Matthew 7:1-12) & that anyone is judged by the light given them ( Romans 2:1-16). This is where the Lord’s commandments ( Matthew 22:36-40, Romans 13:8-10, etc.) click in for me for prayer, whatever charity I can practice ( Matthew 6:1-4). I drive a 12 year old car & do general warehouse labor.

There is a wrong way to think of ourselves in failing to truly live by faith & the Lord shows us this in Luke 18:9-14. I have often found what Paul writes in 2 Corinthians 9:6-15 helpful in summing up living by faith. This is where reading Romans 8:1-39 also starts to click in for me if I remember having a hope for others is included in my thoughts.

 

[Dan1988]

Well, this would certainly explain why you can't answer simple questions about your beliefs on certain verses and how ours are taken out of context. Someone that has the truth as you claim would have easily been able to do so. But you can't.


Are you joking? We have posted scripture over and over and you continually ignore sound scripture. You've never once addressed any scripture I've posted. I'm a scripture person first and foremost. You are not. You mainly pass judgement and resort to insults.


You do realize we are supposed to test them? See if what they are stating can be supported? It's biblical to do so. The Bereans searched the scriptures daily. Were they being arrogant as well? Of course not. And we are told to test all things. We aren't told we need a degree first.

And it's good to question them as well. I grew up in a Baptist church that taught false doctrine. If you would rather follow man than God, so be it. I choose to put my faith in Him and his Word. Am I still learning? Of course as we all should be because the Word can open up at different times. And it's God that gives the increase.

Just because someone has a degree, does not mean they have the truth.




Funny how you post all of these verses and yet are still can't see the truth within them about life and death. There's a distinction. One has everlasting life and the other does not. You have to add to these verses to produce a doctrine. And we know the punishment for that. So again, we have to be very careful.

But in posting these verses you are in fact making our argument for us, not against us concerning life and death.

I can't answer questions which ae based on a false premise, it's like asking me how tall was the real Mickey Mouse and then mocking me for not answering an silly nonsensical question. That's absolutely ridiculous.

No, No, No, you've never posted a single verse to support your heretical theory that death means annihilation or cessation of existence, so please stop lying. You can't find any because they don't exist outside of your wild imagination.

The Berrien's were knew next to nothing compared to people like me, it was all new to them and they were amazed, ,so much so they had to check the scriptures to confirm what they heard was real. But I'm a born again Christian, who doesn't need to check anything because I know the truth of the gospel already.

So before you go checking to see if those things are so, how about you first join a bible class for beginners so you can at least learn the basics. Then you may be equipped to evaluate something.

There's no point in questioning anyone, until you know the truth. If you don't know the truth, then you don't know if someone is lying to you.