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The common thread in Trump's defenders

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But how can this be? Trump does not use "lawfare"...
He learned lawfare from Roy Cohn, one of the fiercest ever (until he got sick and died).
 
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PIERS MORGAN: “Why is Bill Clinton able to have sex with an intern in the Oval Office
Never happened.

It was in the private study next to the Oval, pictured here with the Oval in the background.

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PIERS MORGAN: “So paying somebody off who says you sexually harassed her, paying her nearly a million dollars while you’re the President of the United States and then having sex with an intern in the Oval Office and lying about it, that’s fine because he’s a Democrat?”
Repeating a lie again doesn't make it true.
 
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It was in the private study next to the Oval, pictured here with the Oval in the background.
Well now that really changes the narrative. Poor falsely accused Clinton.
 
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The double standard in a nutshell


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Trump Hater Crumbles as Piers Morgan Asks One Simple Question

PIERS MORGAN: “Why is Bill Clinton able to have sex with an intern in the Oval Office when he’s President and lie to the American people about it on national television? And why is he able to pay off Paula Jones $850,000, four times as much, five times as much as the Trump payment to Stormy Daniels, to get rid of a sexual harassment claim, again, while he’s President, and he has no criminal court recourse for that? Why is that deemed to be better than what happened with Trump and Stormy?”

FRANCESCA FIORENTINI: “I don’t think anyone is making that case, Piers.”

PIERS MORGAN: “No, I’m asking you, what’s the difference? What’s the difference?”

FRANCESCA FIORENTINI: “The difference is that he didn’t cook the books financially using his own, like using back channels in order to pay.”

PIERS MORGAN: “So paying somebody off who says you sexually harassed her, paying her nearly a million dollars while you’re the President of the United States and then having sex with an intern in the Oval Office and lying about it, that’s fine because he’s a Democrat?”

FRANCESCA FIORENTINI: “Only the leftists in your mind are making that argument.”

PIERS MORGAN: “Sorry?”

hope you can see the video..
If only we we could know all the settlement amounts that Trump has had to pay off to settle all of his RAPE and ASSAULT victims.

The point is, now: there are no "leftists" defending clinton. It's all the ghosts of the left that haunt the brains of old republicans who remember the discomfort the left felt back then and were not as condemning. And then metoo happenned and people realized....hey, actually, we should believe women and women are being hurt too often.
 
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The point is, now: there are no "leftists" defending clinton. It's all the ghosts of the left that haunt the brains of old republicans who remember the discomfort the left felt back then and were not as condemning. And then metoo happenned and people realized....hey, actually, we should believe women and women are being hurt too often.
eh… I suppose you could quibble over the definition of “leftist,” but I run across people who, if they don’t outright defend him, are certainly inclined to shrug off his misdeeds. The defense is a shadow of what it was in the 90’s, but it’s not completely gone.
 
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eh… I suppose you could quibble over the definition of “leftist,” but I run across people who, if they don’t outright defend him, are certainly inclined to shrug off his misdeeds. The defense is a shadow of what it was in the 90’s, but it’s not completely gone.
Really hey?
Well, it's probably silly to think they don't exist anywhere. I'm sure in 30 years there may still be a few Trump defenders too.
 
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Really hey?
Well, it's probably silly to think they don't exist anywhere. I'm sure in 30 years there may still be a few Trump defenders too.

I’ve been pretty disappointed with the lack of derision directed at jim. I kind of get not wanting to make Hillary collateral damage, but still… Given the attitudes levied towards other creeps, Bubba should have been run out of town on a rail. But he’s mostly just been allowed to fade into the background like a bunch of creepy famous musicians have.
 
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