Washed and clothed in Christ: The beauty of the Sacrament of Holy Baptism

[Dan Perez]

according to Peter in 1 Peter 3 - the life changing .. saving action in Baptism has nothing to do with water but rather "an appeal to God for a clean conscience" -- by the one being baptized.

That fact alone - clears up a lot of confusion. This is not "baptismal regeneration" rather it is the outward act that testifies to a prior action by the sinner that is "the appeal to God for a clean conscience". It is one of the first actions of the born-again saved believer in following the Word of God... experiencing both a personal testimony given and the walk of obedience instead of continued rebellion.

1 Peter 3:21 Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you—not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

It is a fitting symbol of , death ,burial and resurrection with Christ.
Rom 6: What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase? 2 Far from it! How shall we who died to sin still live in it? 3 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too may walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6 knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; 7 for the one who has died is freed from sin.

And if anyone checks the Greek TEXT. of 1. PETER 3:21 BAPTISM NOW SAVES YOU is not BAPTISM. , but

the word BAPTISMA NOW SAVES YOU , so just check the Greek text in. VINES GREEK DICTIONARY !!

So how does BAPTISMA save you in 1 PETER 3:21. ??

dan p

 

[Dan Perez]

"Baptism" implies water.

And in. 1. Cor 10 :2. And all WERE ALL BAPTIZED UNTO MOSES in. the CLOUD. and in. the SEA ??

Does anyone see the WORD (. WATER //. HYDOR ) in. the Greek text ??

And how were thousands of ISRAELITES BAP[TIZED UNTO Moses ??

AND BA[TIZED INTO THE CLOUD and BA[PTIZED UNTO THE SAE. ??

SO why do you say it is IMPLIESD ??????

Is IMPLIES in. the GREEK TEXT ??

And there are 7 diffenent. kind of BAPTIZING. which is IT. ??

And in. Eph 4:5 it reads ONE LORD , ONE FAITH ONE BAPTISM. , so. we know there is ONLY ONE GOD

ONLY ONE FAITH. and who. are the ONES // HEIS. FAITH and ONE // HEIS BAPTISM SO WHO HAS ONE BABPTISM

SINCE there 7 of them. !!

# 1 THEREB is BAPTO

# 2 THERE is WASHING

# 3 THERE is BAPTISM,

# 4 THERE is SPRINKING

# 5. THERE IS BAP[TISMO

# 6. THERE is BAPTISM

# 7 THERE is BAPTISMA

# 7 PLACING



So which. on. is it ??

dan p

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

And in. 1. Cor 10 :2. And all WERE ALL BAPTIZED UNTO MOSES in. the CLOUD. and in. the SEA ??

Does anyone see the WORD (. WATER //. HYDOR ) in. the Greek text ??

The cloud and the sea are water.

 

[BobRyan]

And if anyone checks the Greek TEXT. of 1. PETER 3:21 BAPTISM NOW SAVES YOU is not BAPTISM. , but

the word BAPTIMA NOW SAVES YOU , so just check the Greek text in. VINES GREEK DICTIONARY !!

dan p

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βάπτισμα βάπτισμα baptisma
The text then says "NOT the washing away of dirt from the flesh" (the waters of baptism) but rather the appeal to God for a clean conscience )such as is the case with a believing adult.

The fact that it is contrasting the washing with water and the appeal to God, shows the image being used is literal baptism

 

[The Liturgist]

No. I do not believe it is necessary for the one ministering the Sacrament of Baptism to be a pastor. The historic Christian position is that it is ideal for pastors to be the ones performing the baptismal rite; but it is not necessary.

Indeed, I believe this point is uncontroversial among traditional churches unlike, whereas in contrast, regarding Chrismation or the Eucharist, the consnsus is that clergy is required.

However the caveat does attach that such extraordinary baptisms are something done in emergencies.

 

[The Liturgist]

Can you name a single mainstream Christian tradition that believes that baptism makes a person sinless? The views of bizarre fringe sects or those of cults have no place in this conversation. There's no comparing the historic, traditional Christian view of baptism with the bizarre teachings of fringe groups and cults.

-CryptoLutheran

I can’t even think of a heretical sect that believes that, except perhaps the Mandaeans, who use baptism to maintain ritual purity, but that’s not the same as sinlessness.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I can’t even think of a heretical sect that believes that, except perhaps the Mandaeans, who use baptism to maintain ritual purity, but that’s not the same as sinlessness.

I don't even think we can place the Mandaeans in the realm of heretical sects--theirs is a fully de-Christianized gnosticism; given that they consider Jesus to be a false prophet. I actually don't know how to properly classify Mandaeanism, it's almost its own religion--as distinct from Christianity as Islam is.

 

[Dan Perez]

g908
βάπτισμα βάπτισμα baptisma
The text then says "NOT the washing away of dirt from the flesh" (the waters of baptism) but rather the appeal to God for a clean conscience )such as is the case with a believing adult.

The fact that it is contrasting the washing with water and the appeal to God, shows the image being used is literal baptism

Biut the Greek for WATER. // HYDOR is not in. the Greek TEXT 11

And in. Eph 4:5 reads , ONE LORD , ONE GFAITH , ONE BAPTISM

ONE. IS. THE GREEK WORD .// HEIS

It reads ONE BAPTISM , so what is that ONE BAPTISM. ??

# 1. THERE iS the word BAP[TISMOS

# 2 THERE IS the word BAPTO

# 3 There is the word SPRINKING

# 4 There is the word. BAPTIZED

# 5 There is the word BAPTIZING

# 6. THERE is the word BAPTISM

# 7. THERE is the word WASHING

So what is that ONE //HEIS. , BAPTISM

dan p