the myth of flat earth debunked again

[prodromos]

In regards to airplane windows, they are all convex, much like the lens on a go pro camera. In other words, you are looking out a curved window, not at a curved earth.

I have confirmed while on the ground that straight horizontal lines remain straight while looking out a plane window. Your claim is false.

Ships don't disappear over the curvature of the earth, they advance beyond your visual perspective. Have you ever been on a long narrow highway lined with telephone poles on both sides? Look ahead or behind, the poles will grow closer together and closer to the ground from your perspective. Drive down the road a mile and those same poles will be at the same height and distance from one another as you originally perceived them. Aim a camera with a telescopic lens at the ship you watched disappear beyond the horizon, magnify the zoom and it will return to view.

Demonstrably false. Small boats may become too small for our eyes to discern at a distance and will indeed come back into view with a telescopic lens, but they will still be in front of the horizon. Large ships such as passenger liners or container ships however can still be seen with the naked eye when they begin to disappear bottom up at the horizon. Zooming in with a telescopic lens does not cause the bottom of the ship to reappear because it is hidden by the curvature of the earth.

You plainly stated "the fact that the earth is a sphere is not up for debate". Then why may I ask are you debating it here? If you are convinced that your view of the cosmos is the correct one, and all other viewpoints are " absurd", then what is the point of further discussion?

Helping people like yourself escape from delusion.

You mentioned that it was God who created a spherical earth. It was also God who created the first humans, Adam and Eve. He created them in His own image and placed them in the garden called Paradise. They were perfect and innocent and had the presence of God Himself with them regularly. And yet, these magnificent creatures who were blessed beyond measure, and created in the very image of Almighty God, were somehow deceived by nothing more than a few simple statements and suggestions. We live in a fallen world, with fallen natures, not a paradise but a cesspool run by none other than Satan himself. Our enemies, the world and the devil, exist in complete opposition to everything that is holy and good and true. Our enemy the flesh is so easily tempted and corrupted that we must continually guard our hearts and minds against not only the world and the devil, but our own vain thoughts and imaginations. And yet, in light of these obvious spiritual realities, your average believer cannot even allow for the possibility that this evil and fallen world in which we live, just may be misrepresenting Gods creation, how such misrepresentations would obviously benefit them, or that ever falling victim to such a misrepresentation could ever be possible.

Direct flights between cities in the Southern Hemisphere would be physically impossible on your flat earth, yet there are multiple such flights every week. Physical reality stands in stark contrast to the things you claim to be true. So which of us is misrepresenting reality?

I have already asked, why are you here if there is nothing to debate?

To rescue poor souls like yourself from their delusion.

Have you ever wondered why we are here? Do you think those of us who disagree with you come here because we enjoy the insults, being called idiots and wingnuts and repeatedly being accused of having no discernment or wisdom and many times even being told that we can't possibly be true Christian believers et etc? Are we masochists? Trolls? Enemies of sent by the devil himself to stir up division? No to all of these.

I think some of you have a martyr complex, and get validation from drawing ridicule.

I can't speak for anyone else, though I know enough people who share my views to confidently say, we are here because at some point in our lives we realized that this world is an empire of lies, ruled by none other than the father of lies, and that a great deal of what we have been told our entire lives served no other purpose than to distract and deceive us into accepting and believing even more lies which would eventually separate us from any knowledge of Almighty God, His creation, His divine purposes, and ultimately His very existence.

The view of creation put forward by you and your coreligious presents a very limited God, no different from many of the pagan gods. You present the entirety of creation as a giant terrarium. We, on the other hand, are ever in awe of the God of this seemingly unbounded creation. Stars and galaxies that will ever be beyond our reach and serve no other purpose than to glorify our infinite and all powerful creator.

That what you call science, and established facts have already had this effect is beyond dispute. The theory of evolution being a prime example. How many people will never believe in God based upon that one scientific theory alone, how many others raised in the faith have abandoned that faith because of the things they were taught as facts during the process of higher education? God only knows.

Evolution is bunk. Yes, it gets taught as fact but it simply cannot explain the simplest bacteria let alone something as complex as a bird or mammal.

We are here because at some point we realized that what we were told did not align with what we have observed.

Yet what you claim does not align with what we observe.

Do we claim to have all the answers, of course not. What we do have are a wealth insufficiently answered questions.

Your unwillingness to accept the answers you are given does not reflect on their truth.

And the God given ability to question those things which we can observably see as unsupported by the commonly accepted answers provided by the so called scientific community and the indoctrinated public at large.

Yet when a group of people go to the effort and expense of documenting the 24 hour sun in Antarctica, which would be impossible if the earth was flat, you people plug your ears and cry "la, la, la, la". It is clear which group of people is in fact, indoctrinated.

 

[Bradskii]

Ships don't disappear over the curvature of the earth, they advance beyond your visual perspective. Aim a camera with a telescopic lens at the ship you watched disappear beyond the horizon, magnify the zoom and it will return to view.

Hey, you might be right. I checked that out for you just in case and found a video where someone showed how much of a ship was visible without zooming in. Then he zoomed in a lot and...you couldn't see any more. In fact, you could see exactly the same. See the end of this short vid.

So, I guess you were wrong. But hey, maybe you'll have better luck explaining the 'upside down' moon.

 

[Brother Del]

The Biblical Case for a Flat and Motionless Earth: A Detailed Study

The Bible, God’s inspired and infallible Word, offers a profound perspective on the creation and nature of the Earth. For those who believe in the absolute truth of Scripture, the descriptions of the Earth found throughout the Bible provide a compelling case for considering the Earth as a flat, motionless plane. In my mind, there is no doubt. What say you? In this study, we will explore numerous verses that support this view, examining the Earth’s foundation, its relationship with the heavens, the nature of the sun, moon, and stars, and the consistent portrayal of the Earth as unmoving.

1. The Foundations and Immovability of the Earth

The Bible begins its description of creation with the Earth, painting a picture of a stable, immovable foundation. This concept is essential to the biblical view of the Earth. In Genesis 1:1–2, the creation of the Earth is mentioned before the creation of the heavens:

"In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void, and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.”
Genesis 1:1–2, NKJV

The Earth is described here as having a surface, a “face” upon which waters and darkness existed. The following verses begin to structure the Earth, culminating in the establishment of its firm foundations.
In Psalm 104:5, we find a more explicit reference to these foundations:

“You who laid the foundations of the earth, so that it should not be moved forever.”
Psalm 104:5, NKJV

The Earth’s foundations being firmly laid suggests stability and immovability, reinforcing the idea that the Earth does not move. This is supported by 1 Chronicles 16:30:
“Tremble before Him, all the earth. The world also is firmly established, it shall not be moved.”
1 Chronicles 16:30, NKJV

Here, the Bible clearly states that the Earth is “firmly established” and “shall not be moved,” suggesting that the Earth remains stationary. The theme of a fixed, immobile Earth is a common one throughout the Bible, and it provides a foundation for understanding the flat Earth model.

2. The Four Corners of the Earth: The Biblical Geography

In various places, Scripture refers to the “four corners” or “ends” of the Earth, a concept that fits within a flat Earth model. These descriptions convey the idea of a plane with boundaries or edges. Isaiah 11:12 is one such example:

“He will set up a banner for the nations, and will assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.”
Isaiah 11:12, NKJV

The term “four corners” implies that the Earth has an extended surface with discernible ends or points, which aligns with a flat Earth view. Additionally, Revelation 7:1 repeats this idea:

“After these things I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, on the sea, or on any tree.” Revelation 7:1, NKJV

The angels standing at the four corners of the Earth support the idea of an extended, flat surface with defined edges. These references are difficult to reconcile with a spherical Earth but are consistent with a flat plane.

3. The Firmament: A Dome Over the Earth

One of the most critical elements of the biblical description of the cosmos is the firmament, a solid structure created by God to separate the waters above from the waters below. In Genesis 1:6–8, we read:

“Then God said, ‘Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.’ Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven.”
Genesis 1:6–8, NKJV

The firmament, often translated as “expanse,” is described as a solid dome or vault, separating the waters above from the waters below. This idea is reinforced in Job 37:18, where the firmament is compared to a solid mirror:

“With Him, have you spread out the skies, strong as a cast metal mirror?”
Job 37:18, NKJV

The depiction of the skies as a “cast metal mirror” suggests that the firmament is solid, not a void as modern cosmology suggests. It forms a boundary over the Earth, supporting the flat Earth model. The firmament is not only a divider but also a protective dome over the Earth, a key concept in understanding the biblical cosmos.

The firmament, referred to as “raqia” (רָקִיעַ) in Hebrew, is a concept rooted in the Biblical creation narrative, particularly in Genesis. The term “raqia” is derived from the root word “raqa,” meaning to stretch, spread out, or expand, often used in the context of hammering out metal. In the ancient Hebrew worldview, the raqia was understood as an expanse or vault that separated the “waters above” from the “waters below,” as described in Genesis 1:6–8. This firmament, solid and vast, was envisioned as a dome or arch that held back the upper waters, creating a division between the earthly realm and the heavenly realms. It is described as being adorned with the sun, moon, and stars, which are set within it to govern day and night. The raqia’s significance is profound in that it represents both the boundary and the connection between the physical world and the heavens, demonstrating God’s sovereignty in establishing order in the cosmos. Its expansive, mysterious nature invites awe and reflection, as it serves as a visual metaphor for the majesty and intentionality of God’s creative power.

4. The Sun, Moon, and Stars: Lights Within the Firmament

The Bible provides a detailed description of the placement of the sun, moon, and stars within the firmament, close to the Earth. According to Genesis 1:14–19, these heavenly bodies were created to serve specific purposes for the Earth:

“Then God said, ‘Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth’; and it was so. Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also. God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth.”
Genesis 1:14–17, NKJV

Notice that the sun, moon, and stars are set within the firmament, not millions of miles away, as modern science claims. Their primary function is to give light to the Earth and mark time for signs, seasons, days, and years. This description fits the flat Earth model, where these celestial bodies move within the firmament above a flat, motionless Earth.

5. The Motion of the Sun: The Bible Speaks of the Sun Moving, Not the Earth

Several verses in the Bible describe the movement of the sun, but none describe the Earth as moving. The Earth is consistently portrayed as motionless, while the sun is described as moving across the sky. One of the clearest examples of this is found in Ecclesiastes 1:5:

“The sun also rises, and the sun goes down, and hastens to the place where it arose.” Ecclesiastes 1:5, NKJV

This verse explicitly states that the sun moves, rising and setting each day. It does not mention any movement of the Earth, which aligns with the idea of a stationary Earth and a moving sun.

Another example comes from Joshua 10:12–13, where Joshua commands the sun to stand still:

“Then Joshua spoke to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel: ‘Sun, stand still over Gibeon; And Moon, in the Valley of Aijalon.’ So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the people had revenge upon their enemies… So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day.”
Joshua 10:12–13, NKJV

Here, the sun and moon are described as halting their movement, implying that they move regularly. This event further supports the idea that it is the sun and moon that move, not the Earth.

6. The Earth as a Fixed, Immovable Plane

In addition to the references to the Earth’s foundation, the Bible repeatedly describes the Earth as immobile, a fixed plane established by God. Job 38:4–6 describes God laying the foundation of the Earth:

“Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding. Who determined its measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it? To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone?”
Job 38:4–6, NKJV

This passage emphasizes the Earth’s foundation as something solid, fixed, and measured. The Earth is not described as a sphere suspended in space but as a structure with foundations and a cornerstone. Psalm 93:1 echoes this sentiment:

“The Lord reigns, He is clothed with majesty; The Lord is clothed, He has girded Himself with strength. Surely the world is established, so that it cannot be moved.”
Psalm 93:1, NKJV

Again, the Earth is described as “established” and “cannot be moved,” underscoring its fixed and immovable nature. This portrayal is consistent throughout Scripture and aligns with the flat Earth model.

Conclusion: A Biblical Case for a Flat, Motionless Earth

The Bible, from Genesis to Revelation, offers a consistent depiction of the Earth as a flat, motionless plane covered by a firmament. The firm foundations, the immovability of the Earth, the sun and moon’s movement within the firmament, and the description of the four corners of the Earth all point to a flat Earth model. Scripture never describes the Earth as a spinning globe but instead presents a picture of a stationary, flat surface with a firmament overhead.

I have tried writing this very simply to show you (especially all Pastors who still preach NASA lies instead of the Bible in your church) that the Bible describes from Genesis to Revelation God’s true cosmology and not the world’s description and understanding. I believe this to be a large part of Satan's great deception to throw off the church.

For those who believe in the complete truth and authority of the Bible, it is worth seriously considering the possibility that the Earth is not a globe hurtling through space but a flat, motionless plane just as God created it and describes it perfectly in His word.

If you believe the Bible is 100 percent truth, then you should faithfully consider the Earth as a flat, motionless plane created by God.

thanks and God bless!

Reprinted from the Medium account of Probably Jonathan
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[Brother Del]

 

[Brother Del]

 

[Brother Del]

44 Government Documents Prove Flat Earth - Flat Earth Videos

44 Government Documents Show Flat Earth.

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[Brother Del]

The Bible is the first textbook on flat earth.

Flat Earth in the Bible

Genesis 1:6
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

1:16-17
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

Job 37:18
Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?

Psalm 19:1
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth

Job 38:14
It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.

Isaiah 24:1
Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.

Joshua 10:12-13
12 Then spake Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies.

Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

1 Chronicles 16:30
the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.

Psalm 104:5
Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

1 Samuel 2:8
the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and he hath set the world upon them.

Matthew 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

Flat Earth Research

The earth is flat. All the evidence proves it.

flatearthresearch.wordpress.com

 

[Apple Sky]

In regards to airplane windows, they are all convex, much like the lens on a go pro camera. In other words, you are looking out a curved window, not at a curved earth.

Ships don't disappear over the curvature of the earth, they advance beyond your visual perspective. Have you ever been on a long narrow highway lined with telephone poles on both sides? Look ahead or behind, the poles will grow closer together and closer to the ground from your perspective. Drive down the road a mile and those same poles will be at the same height and distance from one another as you originally perceived them. Aim a camera with a telescopic lens at the ship you watched disappear beyond the horizon, magnify the zoom and it will return to view.

You plainly stated "the fact that the earth is a sphere is not up for debate". Then why may I ask are you debating it here? If you are convinced that your view of the cosmos is the correct one, and all other viewpoints are " absurd", then what is the point of further discussion?

You mentioned that it was God who created a spherical earth. It was also God who created the first humans, Adam and Eve. He created them in His own image and placed them in the garden called Paradise. They were perfect and innocent and had the presence of God Himself with them regularly. And yet, these magnificent creatures who were blessed beyond measure, and created in the very image of Almighty God, were somehow deceived by nothing more than a few simple statements and suggestions.

We live in a fallen world, with fallen natures, not a paradise but a cesspool run by none other than Satan himself. Our enemies, the world and the devil, exist in complete opposition to everything that is holy and good and true. Our enemy the flesh is so easily tempted and corrupted that we must continually guard our hearts and minds against not only the world and the devil, but our own vain thoughts and imaginations. And yet, in light of these obvious spiritual realities, your average believer cannot even allow for the possibility that this evil and fallen world in which we live, just may be misrepresenting Gods creation, how such misrepresentations would obviously benefit them, or that ever falling victim to such a misrepresentation could ever be possible.

I have already asked, why are you here if there is nothing to debate?

Have you ever wondered why we are here? Do you think those of us who disagree with you come here because we enjoy the insults, being called idiots and wingnuts and repeatedly being accused of having no discernment or wisdom and many times even being told that we can't even possibly be true Christian believers etc etc? Are we masochists? Trolls? Enemies sent by the devil himself to stir up division? No to all of these.

I can't speak for anyone else, though I know enough people who share my views to confidently say, we are here because at some point in our lives we realized that this world is an empire of lies, ruled by none other than the father of lies, and that a great deal of what we have been told our entire lives served no other purpose than to distract and deceive us into accepting and believing even more lies which would eventually separate us from any knowledge of Almighty God, His creation, His divine purposes, and ultimately His very existence.

That what you call science, and established facts have already had this effect is beyond dispute. The theory of evolution being a prime example. How many people will never believe in God based upon that one scientific theory alone, how many others raised in the faith have abandoned that faith because of the things they were taught as facts during the process of higher education? God only knows.

We are here because at some point we realized that what we were told did not align with what we have observed. Do we claim to have all the answers, of course not. What we do have are a wealth insufficiently answered questions. And the God given ability to question those things which we can observably see as unsupported by the commonly accepted answers provided by the so called scientific community and generally accepted by the indoctrinated public at large.

God bless you.

I absolutely agree with you 100 percent, I couldn't have put it better myself, good work

 

[Brother Del]

 

[Brother Del]

 

[Brother Del]

I absolutely agree with you 100 percent, I couldn't have put it better myself, good work

I've requested that my account be deleted. If you found these links and videos etc useful, you may want to save them to pass along after I'm gone. I don't know if they will be available later.

I came here for fellowship, as I'm single and live alone and don't know any believers or have a good church at this time.

This is one of the most unwelcoming, unkind, unloving and judgmental environments I have ever experienced. And not just this particular thread.

There are some wonderful, sincere and genuinely humble and loving Christians here, I just haven't met enough of them to justify my stay.

Thanks for the kind words.

Much love. Much peace.

Yah alone be praised.

 

[prodromos]

Every one of his 'proofs' has been debunked, but what is most surprising is that you go to anti-christians for your sources, and then you have @Apple Sky liking your post, even though she claims she has sworn off using idiot Eric as a source for her own responses.
Proverbs 26:11

 

[prodromos]

I absolutely agree with you 100 percent, I couldn't have put it better myself, good work

Given the poor quality of your responses, this isn't exactly high praise

 

[Strong in Him]

We live in a fallen world, with fallen natures, not a paradise but a cesspool run by none other than Satan himself. Our enemies, the world and the devil, exist in complete opposition to everything that is holy and good and true.

Yes.
But that has nothing at all to do with the shape of the earth.

Our enemy the flesh is so easily tempted and corrupted that we must continually guard our hearts and minds against not only the world and the devil, but our own vain thoughts and imaginations. And yet, in light of these obvious spiritual realities, your average believer cannot even allow for the possibility that this evil and fallen world in which we live, just may be misrepresenting Gods creation,

I would say that 100% of Flat Earthers cannot even allow for the possibility that God created the world to be a globe. Nor that the shape of the earth has nothing at all to do with our faith or salvation.
Of course, some Flat Earthers may not believe in God at all. They would not be saved, even though they completely agreed with you about the shape of the earth - which proves my point.

Enemies sent by the devil himself to stir up division? No to all of these.

I don't believe you were sent by the devil. But I do believe there is nothing the devil likes more than an academic argument that does no good at all, and keeps people away from the cross.
How many pages - on all sections of these forums - have been used in discussing the shape of the earth?
How many times have Flat Earthers said, "well, I don't share your views, but let's celebrate Jesus ad what he is doing in our lives"?

I can't speak for anyone else, though I know enough people who share my views to confidently say, we are here because at some point in our lives we realized that this world is an empire of lies, ruled by none other than the father of lies, and that a great deal of what we have been told our entire lives served no other purpose than to distract and deceive us into accepting and believing even more lies which would eventually separate us from any knowledge of Almighty God,

But the shape of the earth doesn't do that.

I am a Christian.
I believe that God created the universe, as described in Genesis 1.
I also accept what I was told my science teachers, science textbooks, my parents etc etc that the earth is a globe.
I have already said this to another Flat Earther and been told, "you can't do." They, you and any other FE-ers have to accept that I do. I, and possibly, millions of other Christians, worship, pray to, believe in and serve the God who made the earth to be a globe. In his sight, we are just as saved, valued and loved as those of you who believe the earth to be flat.

Satan is corrupting, and has corrupted, Christian values. The teaching of the world is that "you are what you own/have achieved. That the first will be first. That if something feels right, do it." Sex before marriage is now seen as the norm. "Everybody" gets creative with their expenses, takes a "sickie" occasionally and so on. The devil has also promoted the outrageous lie that "little" sins don't matter. And that it doesn't matter if you don't believe; if you do good deeds, that will be enough to "get you into heaven."
All of this is a lie from the evil one - it has nothing whatsoever to do with the shape of the earth.

That what you call science, and established facts have already had this effect is beyond dispute.

There are scientists who are also Christians.
There are people who became Christians, discovered they had an interest in/gift for science and went off to study it further. And there are scientists who became Christians because their work strongly suggested to them that there was a Creator behind it all.

And the God given ability to question those things which we can observably see as unsupported by the commonly accepted answers provided by the so called scientific community and generally accepted by the indoctrinated public at large.

And God also gave people the ability to discover, to experiment, to make discoveries and conclude that the earth is a globe.
I suspect that the answer to some of your unanswered, Flat Earth questions is that what you are asking is not possible on a flat earth. That people can't find proof because there isn't any; that such a thing only goes to prove that the earth is, in fact, a globe.
But they won't/can't admit to it.

 

[Strong in Him]

I've requested that my account be deleted. If you found these links and videos etc useful, you may want to save them to pass along after I'm gone. I don't know if they will be available later.

I came here for fellowship, as I'm single and live alone and don't know any believers or have a good church at this time.

This is one of the most unwelcoming, unkind, unloving and judgmental environments I have ever experienced. And not just this particular thread.

That's a shame.
Why not forget arguing about the shape of the earth - which doesn't save, edify or bless anyone - and tell us about what Jesus has done for you. Or your studies of the Bible. Or any good Christians books you have read recently.
There are forums on here where people discuss Scripture. There are forums for different types of ministry, prayer, gifts of the Spirit and so on.
There are even forums for you to talk about your hobbies, tell clean jokes or just hang out and have a virtual coffee with someone.

 

[prodromos]

I've requested that my account be deleted. If you found these links and videos etc useful, you may want to save them to pass along after I'm gone. I don't know if they will be available later.

Ah, so you never had any intention of listening to any rebuttal of the claims made in those videos. Rather dishonest of you, don't you think?

I came here for fellowship, as I'm single and live alone and don't know any believers or have a good church at this time.

I'm sorry to hear of your circumstances. Unfortunately internet forums are no substitute for meeting with people face to face. Much is lost or easily misinterpreted online.

This is one of the most unwelcoming, unkind, unloving and judgmental environments I have ever experienced. And not just this particular thread.

Unfortunately you brought it on yourself by just wading on in without testing the waters or simply spending some time simply watching.

There are some wonderful, sincere and genuinely humble and loving Christians here, I just haven't met enough of them to justify my stay.

The tragedy of this is that you honestly believe yourself to be one of those wonderful, sincere and genuinely humble and loving Christians. It honestly didn't take long before you dropped your veneer of piety and engaged in personal attacks.

Much love. Much peace.

Sentiments missing from the body of your posts. It comes across as insincere

Yah alone be praised.

Amen. Lord have mercy on me a sinner

 

[Strong in Him]

Ah, so you never had any intention of listening to any rebuttal of the claims made in those videos. Rather dishonest of you, don't you think?

I'd also be interested to know why he judged me to be a "fragile person". (Not that he knows anything about me.)

 

[Apple Sky]

I've requested that my account be deleted. If you found these links and videos etc useful, you may want to save them to pass along after I'm gone. I don't know if they will be available later.

I came here for fellowship, as I'm single and live alone and don't know any believers or have a good church at this time.

This is one of the most unwelcoming, unkind, unloving and judgmental environments I have ever experienced. And not just this particular thread.

There are some wonderful, sincere and genuinely humble and loving Christians here, I just haven't met enough of them to justify my stay.

Thanks for the kind words.

Much love. Much peace.

Yah alone be praised.

This is very sad news.

I wish you all the best & my payers go with you.

May God speed

 

[prodromos]

I wish you all the best & my payers go with you.

Although he probably could use the money, I suspect he would appreciate your "prayers" more

 

[Apple Sky]

Ah, so you never had any intention of listening to any rebuttal of the claims made in those videos. Rather dishonest of you, don't you think?

I'm sorry to hear of your circumstances. Unfortunately internet forums are no substitute for meeting with people face to face. Much is lost or easily misinterpreted online.

Unfortunately you brought it on yourself by just wading on in without testing the waters or simply spending some time simply watching.

The tragedy of this is that you honestly believe yourself to be one of those wonderful, sincere and genuinely humble and loving Christians. It honestly didn't take long before you dropped your veneer of piety and engaged in personal attacks.

Sentiments missing from the body of your posts. It comes across as insincere

Amen. Lord have mercy on me a sinner

This is another believer in the truth down the pan, all because of peoples attitudes.