the myth of flat earth debunked again

[Akita Suggagaki]

It has always struck me as weird. Metaphor is at the heart of language. To my knowledge this has been so for millenia. We tell tales using all kinds of rhetorical devices and images and comparisons and analogies, in order to tell a greater truth and yet all of the power and richness and diversity is discarded and denied in place of a dry, empty literal desert. How sad.

I am just awakening to "Communication" and Rhetorical studies. All the way back to Romans and Greeks. So much.

It's like arguing over whether a turtle really raced a hare and missing the point.

 

[Astrophile]

Excuse me? What do you mean by "your version of Christianity" in reference to @Aussie Pete who identifies as Non Denom?

Also, you are responding to the beginning of a thread that is now over 1000 posts. You are a bit late to the party and I doubt you've taken the time to read all the responses. Do you honestly think you are bringing something new to the discussion?

I apologise for taking so long to respond to the thread; I was uncertain about the issues under discussion, and whether I could contribute anything useful. However, I now think that I can say something new.

As I see it, this is an epistemic matter. Aussie Pete began by citing the observations by Colonel Williams (a committed Christian) in support of the hypothesis that the Earth is spherical. This implies that Aussie Pete believes that valid scientific conclusions can be drawn from empirical evidence. However, Isaiah 11:3 says that Jews and Christians must not base conclusions on what they can see and hear, and the articles of faith of creationist organisations say that scientific evidence can never take precedence over the teaching of the Bible. In other threads, Aussie Pete himself has rejected the overwhelming evidence for evolution in favour of the Biblical teaching of a six-day creation, so he appears to have been inconsistent.

Later Aussie Pete (post 9) said that the Bible does not teach that the Earth is flat. He did not say what he would believe about the shape of the Earth if the Bible did teach that it was flat. D Taylor and contratodo (post 17) contradicted this, and contratodo cited Biblical verses in support of the hypotheses that the Earth is flat and the sky (or firmament) is a solid vault. If D Taylor and contratodo are correct and the Bible does teach that the Earth is flat, will Aussie Pete accept this Biblical teaching or will he continue to accept the empirical evidence presented by Colonel Williams?

 

[Apple Sky]

@Warden_of_the_Storm Thanks for all the reactions you've really bumped my score up

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

@Warden_of_the_Storm Thanks for all the reactions you've really bumped my score up

Ugh, that's gross, the fact you care at all about your 'scores' when you're being mocked for your crackpot views.

 

[Strong in Him]

@Warden_of_the_Storm Thanks for all the reactions you've really bumped my score up

And you accused us of only caring about reactions!

 

[BNR32FAN]

Ugh, that's gross, the fact you care at all about your 'scores' when you're being mocked for your crackpot views.

Yeah I’ve never like the whole scoring idea in CF.

 

[BNR32FAN]

I apologise for taking so long to respond to the thread; I was uncertain about the issues under discussion, and whether I could contribute anything useful. However, I now think that I can say something new.

As I see it, this is an epistemic matter. Aussie Pete began by citing the observations by Colonel Williams (a committed Christian) in support of the hypothesis that the Earth is spherical. This implies that Aussie Pete believes that valid scientific conclusions can be drawn from empirical evidence. However, Isaiah 11:3 says that Jews and Christians must not base conclusions on what they can see and hear, and the articles of faith of creationist organisations say that scientific evidence can never take precedence over the teaching of the Bible. In other threads, Aussie Pete himself has rejected the overwhelming evidence for evolution in favour of the Biblical teaching of a six-day creation, so he appears to have been inconsistent.

Later Aussie Pete (post 9) said that the Bible does not teach that the Earth is flat. He did not say what he would believe about the shape of the Earth if the Bible did teach that it was flat. D Taylor and contratodo (post 17) contradicted this, and contratodo cited Biblical verses in support of the hypotheses that the Earth is flat and the sky (or firmament) is a solid vault. If D Taylor and contratodo are correct and the Bible does teach that the Earth is flat, will Aussie Pete accept this Biblical teaching or will he continue to accept the empirical evidence presented by Colonel Williams?

I’m a young earth creationist and I don’t see any conclusive evidence to support evolution. Evidence in support of a particular theory or position doesn’t verify the validity of that theory or position if the evidence is inconclusive.

 

[BNR32FAN]

I apologise for taking so long to respond to the thread; I was uncertain about the issues under discussion, and whether I could contribute anything useful. However, I now think that I can say something new.

As I see it, this is an epistemic matter. Aussie Pete began by citing the observations by Colonel Williams (a committed Christian) in support of the hypothesis that the Earth is spherical. This implies that Aussie Pete believes that valid scientific conclusions can be drawn from empirical evidence. However, Isaiah 11:3 says that Jews and Christians must not base conclusions on what they can see and hear, and the articles of faith of creationist organisations say that scientific evidence can never take precedence over the teaching of the Bible. In other threads, Aussie Pete himself has rejected the overwhelming evidence for evolution in favour of the Biblical teaching of a six-day creation, so he appears to have been inconsistent.

Later Aussie Pete (post 9) said that the Bible does not teach that the Earth is flat. He did not say what he would believe about the shape of the Earth if the Bible did teach that it was flat. D Taylor and contratodo (post 17) contradicted this, and contratodo cited Biblical verses in support of the hypotheses that the Earth is flat and the sky (or firmament) is a solid vault. If D Taylor and contratodo are correct and the Bible does teach that the Earth is flat, will Aussie Pete accept this Biblical teaching or will he continue to accept the empirical evidence presented by Colonel Williams?

I’m just curious, have you ever traveled all the way across Australia going east or west? If so what means of travel did you use and how long did it take?

 

[Bob Crowley]

I’m just curious, have you ever traveled all the way across Australia going east or west? If so what means of travel did you use and how long did it take?

I'm not interested in the flat earth debate, but I have driven from Brisbane to Perth and return three times (a long time ago).

It took about six days each way allowing for sufficient breaks between driving.

From Brisbane to Perth the road distance is about 4310 kilometres, so each day required about 718 kilometres (446 miles).

I've flown once with the distance being 3614 air kilometres or 2245 air miles. Flight time is about 5.25 hours. There's a two hour time difference so going from Brisbane to Perth we gained two hours, and lost two hours on the return trip.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Yeah I’ve never like the whole scoring idea in CF.

Like the idea of 'counting threads'. Just... what's the point?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Like the idea of 'counting threads'. Just... what's the point?

It's personally why I think that being able to dislike a thread should be a thing on here.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Like the idea of 'counting threads'. Just... what's the point?

For boasting

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

For boasting

Which feels... not great for a Christian forum.