California to revoke 17,000 commercial driver’s licenses

[Landon Caeli]

California plans to revoke 17,000 commercial driver's licenses given to immigrants after discovering the expiration dates went past when the drivers were legally allowed to be in the U.S., state officials said Wednesday.

The announcement follows harsh criticism from the Trump administration about California and other states granting licenses to people in the country illegally. The issue was thrust into the public's consciousness in August, when a tractor-trailer driver not authorized to be in the U.S. made an illegal U-turn and caused a crash in Florida that killed three people.

California revokes 17,000 commercial driver's licenses for immigrants

The announcement follows harsh criticism from the Trump administration about California and other states granting licenses to people in the country illegally.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Landon Caeli]

This is how the current administration helps Americans with getting good paying jobs. Things like this need to be happening.

 

[Delvianna]

So I guess the meme was correct??

17,000 for 1 state for drivers is a huge number. I'm glad to see California doing something about it but it shouldn't have happened in the first place.

 

[comana]

This is how the current administration helps Americans with getting good paying jobs. Things like this need to be happening.

This doesn’t prevent qualified immigrants from getting CDLs, the only change is the expiration date will align with the visa expiration date.

 

[Landon Caeli]

This doesn’t prevent qualified immigrants from getting CDLs, the only change is the expiration date will align with the visa expiration date.

But it will prevent employers from hiring truckers who they "think" are legally allowed to drive trucks in this country, but aren't.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

So I guess the meme was correct??

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17,000 for 1 state for drivers is a huge number. I'm glad to see California doing something about it but it shouldn't have happened in the first place.

der terk err jubs...

 

[durangodawood]

Could be wrong, but I thought there was already an overall shortage of truck drivers.

 

[wing2000]

...from the op's link:

Newsom's office said that every one of the drivers whose license is being revoked had valid work authorizations from the federal government. At first, his office declined to disclose the exact reason for revoking the licenses, saying only they violated state law. Later, his office revealed the state law it was referring to was one that requires the licenses expire on or before a person's legal status to be in the United State ends, as reported to the DMV.

Essentially, California failed to set the correct license expiration date to coincide with the end of the person's legal status.

 

[wing2000]

Could be wrong, but I thought there was already an overall shortage of truck drivers.

...yes. But no worries, fully automated trucks will soon be the norm.

edit to add link (in Texas, automated trucks are already on the highway from Dallas to Houston....since May).

Driverless semi-trucks are on the road in North Texas

For the first time, driverless semi-trucks with no one behind the wheel are on the road in North Texas.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[iluvatar5150]

This is how the current administration helps Americans with getting good paying jobs. Things like this need to be happening.

Since when is driving a truck a "good paying job"? Maybe it pays well if you've got some extra certifications and drive for a specialty outfit doing stuff like high security or way oversized loads, but everything I hear about vanilla hauling is that it's a race to the bottom and that the industry is full of predatory firms conning drivers into expensive loans. And it's probably within a generation of being completely replaced by robots.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Since when is driving a truck a "good paying job"? Maybe it pays well if you've got some extra certifications and drive for a specialty outfit doing stuff like high security or way oversized loads, but everything I hear about vanilla hauling is that it's a race to the bottom and that the industry is full of predatory firms conning drivers into expensive loans. And it's probably within a generation of being completely replaced by robots.

It's stable employment with competitive pay. I don't see why you're downplaying it, or how you justify that it's not a good job.

Bias against blue collar workers is a very common mistake made by the uninformed. I'm a blue collar worker myself, and I bet I make more than 90% of the posters on this forum, or better, even with your college degrees.

 

[DaisyDay]

I'm a blue collar worker myself

Are you a truck driver?

 

[Landon Caeli]

Are you a truck driver?

My job does require a class A CDL, as one requirement among many, but I'm not a semi-truck driver, no.

 

[iluvatar5150]

It's stable employment with competitive pay.

Competitive with what?

I don't see why you're downplaying it, or how you justify that it's not a good job.

Bias against blue collar workers is a very common mistake made by the uninformed.

Spare me your butthurt. What I was exhibiting was not “bias against blue collar workers,” but rather an exasperation with the aggrandizement of many blue collar jobs that papers over how difficult, dangerous, taxing or not-lucrative they often are. I take this stance because I wish they were better than they are, because I wish people could have my standard of living doing those jobs. But they largely can’t.

I'm a blue collar worker myself, and I bet I make more than 90% of the posters on this forum, or better, even with your college degrees.

Can’t know if you don’t tell us.

 

[rambot]

This is how the current administration helps Americans with getting good paying jobs. Things like this need to be happening.

YES!!!

Disrupting the flow of good by removing 17000 drivers from an already stressed food chain is DEFINITELY going to be a really big help for everyone.


Glad the code has finally been cracked.

 

[rambot]

It's stable employment with competitive pay.

See...but what does "competetive pay" mean? Because it sounds like while it may be competetive, it is competetive for about 20% of the population (at a median salary of 65gs). Besides that there are limiting factors for a job like that (health, social, familiar circumstance) can make it untenable.

I don't see why you're downplaying it, or how you justify that it's not a good job.

Bias against blue collar workers is a very common mistake made by the uninformed. I'm a blue collar worker myself, and I bet I make more than 90% of the posters on this forum, or better, even with your college degrees.

Nobody has a bias against blue collar workers. You would actually find that everyone you purport to be angry with for being a "socialist" would FAR father see your wages increase. We are angry you get paid so little when owners get so much more.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Nobody has a bias against blue collar workers. You would actually find that everyone you purport to be angry with for being a "socialist" would FAR father see your wages increase. We are angry you get paid so little when owners get so much more.

Yeah, I love how the ones constantly decrying the abuse and scorn directed at "the working man" are also the ones who scoff at minimum wage hikes, union rights, workplace protections, expanded health insurance coverage, and mandatory sick time and parental leave. No socialism for them! It's gotta be pure every-man-is-an-island capitalism, forgetting that, in the free market, they're not the titans. They're just the fodder.

 

[rambot]

Yeah, I love how the ones constantly decrying the abuse and scorn directed at "the working man" are also the ones who scoff at minimum wage hikes, union rights, workplace protections, expanded health insurance coverage, and mandatory sick time and parental leave. No socialism for them! It's gotta be pure every-man-is-an-island capitalism, forgetting that, in the free market, they're not the titans. They're just the fodder.

It's interesting.

Millionaires have learned to work together. Billionaires have learned to work together. Working class dumb dumbs keep fighting against each other. They don't recognize the power we would have if we stopped doing that.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Nobody has a bias against blue collar workers. You would actually find that everyone you purport to be angry with for being a "socialist" would FAR father see your wages increase. We are angry you get paid so little when owners get so much more

I don't believe for a second that you would be interested in increasing my wages. If I make between 280 and 300k per year, do you still want to increase my wages? or do you actually want to lower them?

I bet the latter. And that's why I cannot support socialism or democratic socialism, because more likely than not, you do not *actually* support the hard working middle class, but rather, the poor exclusively.

 

[DaisyDay]

I don't believe for a second that you would be interested in increasing my wages.

I don't think he's lying.

If I make between 280 and 300k per year, do you still want to increase my wages? or do you actually want to lower them?

Do you consider 280K - 300K per year middle class? Outside super expensive places like San Francisco or Manhattan, that kind of salary should put you firmly in the upper class to wealthy. That seems a good wage to me but I don't want to lower it. There are those who make that an hour which seems excessive.

I bet the latter. And that's why I cannot support socialism or democratic socialism, because more likely than not, you do not *actually* support the hard working middle class, but rather, the poor exclusively.

How silly when he clearly is part of the hard working middle class (as I was before I retired). Obviously, the poor need more help, but a solid middle class is good for society generally.