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[Phil G]

And how does one know what Martin Luther believed ?

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Well you tell me. You’re the one who brought Luther in on this. So you bear the responsibility for proving he believed the earth to be flat. Can you find one teaching of Luther where he says the earth is flat and not a globe?

Remember Copernicus said the earth is a globe. So why didn’t Luther contradict that?

AI overview:

“No, Martin Luther did not believe the Earth was flat; he, like most educated people of his time, knew the Earth was a sphere, and he was aware of the long-standing scientific and philosophical evidence for its roundness. However, Luther was strongly against Nicolaus Copernicus's heliocentric model, which placed the Sun at the center of the solar system instead of the Earth. He rejected Copernicus's ideas based on his interpretation of the Bible, particularly the Book of Joshua, and believed the geocentric model (Earth-centered) was the correct one, but this was a theological and philosophical stance, not a belief in a flat Earth.”

You’re jumping from one claim to another, as usual. And when you can’t answer, you’ll jump to yet another claim.

Try sticking with one claim and digesting the fact that your claim doesn’t stand up to much scrutiny.

 

[Apple Sky]

Well you tell me. You’re the one who brought Luther in on this. So you bear the responsibility for proving he believed the earth to be flat. Can you find one teaching of Luther where he says the earth is flat and not a globe?

Never claimed that Martin Luther said the earth was flat, what I said was that ML knew the earth to be stationary & didn't move.
At least get yer facts right.

“No, Martin Luther did not believe the Earth was flat; he, like most educated people of his time, knew the Earth was a sphere, and he was aware of the long-standing scientific and philosophical evidence for its roundness. However, Luther was strongly against Nicolaus Copernicus's heliocentric model, which placed the Sun at the center of the solar system instead of the Earth. He rejected Copernicus's ideas based on his interpretation of the Bible, particularly the Book of Joshua, and believed the geocentric model (Earth-centered) was the correct one, but this was a theological and philosophical stance, not a belief in a flat Earth.”

I only asked, 'And how does one know what Martin Luther believed' ? Stop getting so touchy.

 

[Phil G]

Never claimed that Martin Luther said the earth was flat, what I said was that ML knew the earth to be stationary & didn't move.
At least get yer facts right.



I only asked, 'And how does one know what Martin Luther believed' ? Stop getting so touchy.

I’m not being touchy. You are. I just said he was wrong that the earth was geocentric and that he was right that the earth wasn’t flat.

Your response was to challenge me about how we know what he believed and posted a page confirming he believed the earth to be geocentric, which I never questioned.

Now you’re getting all defensive about it.

 

[Apple Sky]

I’m not being touchy. You are

I'm not the one who's saying ' Well you tell me.' as if it's an order.

You’re jumping from one claim to another, as usual. And when you can’t answer, you’ll jump to yet another claim.

& do try giving me a chance 2 answer .

 

[Phil G]

I'm not the one who's saying ' Well you tell me.' as if it's an order.



& do try giving me a chance 2 answer .

It wasn’t an order, it was a suggestion seeing as you’re the one who brought Luther into it. Look who’s touchy now…

And you’ve been given plenty of chances to answer for your claims. You just change the subject when you can’t answer…as usual.

 

[Apple Sky]

It wasn’t an order, it was a suggestion seeing as you’re the one who brought Luther into it. Look who’s touchy now…

And you’ve been given plenty of chances to answer for your claims. You just change the subject when you can’t answer…as usual.

Why are being so horrible ?

 

[Phil G]

Why are being so horrible ?

I’m not being horrible. You’ve been horrible to me, but I’m giving you the opportunity to give evidence for your claims, which you obviously don’t like having to do.

And it’s time your attitude changed like @prodromos has alluded to.