Release from Epstein files

[Servus]

That is totally false. Trump et al knew exactly what the meeting was about. The email to Don Jr to set up the meeting:

June 3rd email to Trump Jr., Goldstone wrote:



Trump Jr. responded:



There is NO mention of Russian sanctions. Just the potential dirt on Hillary.
Stop winging it.
Stop making it up as you go.

You can have a spirited debate without being pugnacious.

In June 2016, Donald Trump Jr. and then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort met at Trump Tower with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya. Jared Kushner also attended the meeting. The meeting was set up via email exchange after Trump Jr. was promised that Veselnitskaya could provide damaging information on Hillary Clinton as "part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump"

The promised "dirt" on Clinton never materialized, and the conversation primarily revolved around U.S. sanctions against Russia (the Magnitsky Act) and the Russian government's retaliatory ban on American adoptions of Russian children. The Trump team members later testified that they were quickly disappointed and found the information vague or nonsensical.

There's no reason for anyone to make up what's already written.

 

[durangodawood]

....There's no reason for anyone to make up what's already written.

Wow they went into this meeting for the purpose of availing themselves of Russian govt support for their campaign!

 

[Say it aint so]

You can have a spirited debate without being pugnacious.

There's no reason for anyone to make up what's already written.

Okay, e, let's review. Paul Manafort did in fact admit to working with Russians given the Trump campaign. Trump's inner circle did in fact meet at Trump To

 

[Servus]

Okay, e, let's review. Paul Manafort did in fact admit to working with Russians given the Trump campaign. Trump's inner circle did in fact meet at Trump To

Yes. That's all documented.

 

[Servus]

Wow they went into this meeting for the purpose of availing themselves of Russian govt support for their campaign!

Yep it was big drama nearly ten years ago, and has nothing to do with the Epstein files.

 

[durangodawood]

Yep it was big drama nearly ten years ago, and has nothing to do with the Epstein files.

I was responding to what you quoted. Did you put it in the wrong thread?

 

[Servus]

I was responding to what you quoted. Did you put it in the wrong thread?

No way back on the first page I made a silly throw away quip: "Epsteingate, from the people who brought you Russiagate". The rest is off topic derail history.

It's a good thing I didn't make a remark about the Epstein files and Dinty Moore, because then half of this thread would be a discussion about beef stew.

 

[durangodawood]

No way back on the first page I made a silly throw away quip: "Epsteingate, from the people who brought you Russiagate". The rest is off topic derail history.

It's a good thing I didn't make a remark about the Epstein files and Dinty Moore, because then half of this thread would be a discussion about beef stew.

False implications about very important things like the Trump campaign / Russia investigations really should be challenged.

If otoh you had falsely claimed Dinty Moore is healthy and delicious, I probably would have let that slide.

 

[The Barbarian]

I have seen Republicans take all manner of strategy to deal with this upcoming release.
So far I'm preferring this "there's probably nothing" strategy I'm seeing here to the other "raping teenagers isn't that big a deal" that is bubbling up on podcasts and commentaries

That feels like a losing strategy to me....

I couldn't believe anyone would argue that because the girls being molested were in their early teens, it's not that big a deal. But there it is.

 

[camille70]

That is a notice by the FBI under the admin who is doing everything they can to keep things from the public. Take with one two grains of salt.

That memo was just a short while ago. Now they are investigating people. If they bring a case against anyone it will probably be deemed malicious as it was ordered on social media by the president and given a response that they are following said orders.

 

[The Barbarian]

I don't think any of the victims have accused Clinton though.

Apparently, a phrase in the emails has led to a truly filthy story about Trump and Bill Clinton together. But Clinton has denied it. And he surely wouldn't lie about something like that.

 

[camille70]

Apparently, a phrase in the emails has led to a truly filthy story about Trump and Bill Clinton together. But Clinton has denied it. And he surely wouldn't lie about something like that.

Epsteins brother said it wasn't Clinton, but didn't say who it was. Other people have said it was a donor with the nickname Bubba.

Edit:
He implied it was a personal joke.

https://x.com/CalltoActivism/status/1989819088525570186?s=20

 

[The Barbarian]

Epsteins brother said it wasn't Clinton, but didn't say who it was. Other people have said it was a donor with rhe nickname Bubba.

Don't believe it. Clinton may be a slimeball, but even he has limits.

 

[rjs330]

The fact that Trump was caught creeping into the dressing room of under-aged females (he even privately bragged about it) does indicate that he was interested. So motive plus opportunity...

Trying to sow chaos again. Even Biden didn't find anything. And he had it for four years.

 

[rjs330]

So ALL the people who have said "release rhe epstein files" are just chaos agents or it just those lefties?

I remember when ALMOST every poster on CF was calling for the release.
To those who don't call foe it now, what has changed?


A quote like this makes it sound like the accusations just arise out of think vapor clouds.
I am GENUINELY curious if you could list all the "behaviours of concern" that HAVE GIVEN people the impression that Trump is inappropriate with young girl.
You can choose to include direct allegations (though im sure you are not able to) if you like or just include his utterly creepy behaviours. If you can list all of those events and quotes and still feel it's "stupid as they come", I'll be impressed.

Because I'll tell you what; I'd bet you, your father, and your male children have never done those things. Because your parents raised you right. We don't have those allegations because we don't incriminate ourselves by enjoying those past times.




Honestly you can FEEL the relief of not having to intellectually defend the alleged pedophile anymore because "it's the left's fault" again.

I don't doubt it must get tiring.

Yeah. I dont think the left cares all that much. They know there is nothing there. If there were Biden would have released it in a second.

They are just happy to sow chaos. They love it when the Republicans are fighting. Just like we love it when the Democrats are fighting.

I mean seriously. I mean what are you going to do when you find out foreign dignitaries were involved? Demand They all be arrested? You think thats going to happen?

 

[The Barbarian]

The fact that Trump was caught creeping into the dressing room of under-aged females (he even privately bragged about it) does indicate that he was interested. So motive plus opportunity...

Trying to sow chaos again.

Once one gets caught at something like that, people always suspect the same person. It's not just creeping into girls' dressing rooms. A court found that he had sexually assaulted a woman. Why do you think Americans suspect that he's guilty?

Nearly half of Americans believe Trump was ‘involved with Epstein’s crimes’, new poll finds​

Trump’s overall job approval as president sits at 40 percent, the poll found​

Trump has been embroiled in ongoing controversy over his handling of files related to Epstein. Initially, the White House ordered a review of the case and said it would publish names and evidence about Epstein's associates. However, a July memo by the FBI and Justice Department said there was no Epstein "client list" and that no further charges would be brought. The announcement triggered a backlash among those who called for more transparency about the case.

Even Biden didn't find anything. And he had it for four years.

What makes you think he was looking? Not every politician is crooked enough to weaponize the Justice Department. Biden had the Trump pandemic and an economic disaster to deal with when he took office.

 

[The Barbarian]

I mean seriously. I mean what are you going to do when you find out foreign dignitaries were involved?

Lost his commission, titles, and property. In the UK, the government isn't covering up for highly placed pedophiles.

 

[Desk trauma]

Lost his commission, titles, and property. In the UK, the government isn't covering up for highly placed pedophiles.

…or has found one they’re willing to throw under the bus.

 

[wing2000]

In a sharp reversal, President Donald Trump said late Sunday that House Republicans should support a measure that would require the Justice Department to release the information it has related to its investigation into convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein — after key lawmakers said support was building ahead of a closely watched vote.


It's refreshing to see Republicans finally exercise their Constitutional power to counter the Executive Branch. It may be a first under the Trump era.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/11/16/house-epstein-discharge-petition-trump/

 

[rambot]

Yeah. I dont think the left cares all that much. They know there is nothing there.

Yeah.

A known trafficker of young girls has Trump's email over 1600 times; he's been talking out of two sides of his mouth for YEARS on this topic.

Of course there's nothing....that is the logical conclusion.

They are just happy to sow chaos. They love it when the Republicans are fighting. Just like we love it when the Democrats are fighting.

Yeah. Democrats are fighting about:
Democrat leadership is entrenched in old ways of thinking and don't support common people.


The Republicans are fighting about:

Should we release a list of child rapists
...and some of you guys are saying "no".

We don't "love" the republicans are fighting...well, I don't. Frankly, I find it sad and pathetic you guys are fighting. I find it morally represensible and a blight against America that there is a fight over this at all.

I mean seriously. I mean what are you going to do when you find out foreign dignitaries were involved? Demand They all be arrested? You think thats going to happen?

What is going on?!? Are you now suggesting that individuals who raped girls should NOT be arrested or at LEAST pursued to the full extent the law allows?


What happenned to the American right? You guys were bulldogs at "protecting kids" from trans book readings. Now you are suggesting we shouldn't bother releasing a list of child rapists?


When you guys reflect on this, doesn't it seem weird how your opinion on this issue has morphed so much?