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[Phil G]

Why don't they ?

I've explained that to you repeatedly. Here it is again:

Aerial masts would make perfect sense if satellite dishes were aligned with aerial masts. But they are not, so that’s nonsense.

Underground cables would make perfect sense if cables carrying the signals were routed underground and connected to the satellite boxes, doing away with any need for dishes aligned to the sky. But there are no such cables. And dishes do have to be aligned to the sky.

Signals skipped off the ionosphere would make perfect sense if the ionosphere was consistently reliable in providing strong uninterrupted signals. But it isn’t. It is unreliable for such use.

Balloons would only make sense if receiver dishes were constantly rotating trying to keep a lock on the balloon. But no, they remain pointing at the same place in the sky.

So where do the signals come from? If there are no satellites it should be very easily explained. But flat earthers have no clue!

So it has to be satellites in geostationary orbit above a globe earth. Unless flat earthers can come up with rational answers instead of nonsense, that is the only logical answer.

 

[Phil G]

And suppose orbiting satellites are ?

With the earth tuning & moving through space at a exorbitant speed, I cant see how orbiting satellites are reliable either.

I am looking for a logical, well thought-out alternative as to where satellite tv signals come from if not from satellites in geostationary orbit over a globe earth.

It's not about whether satellites exist or not, it's about where do the signals come from?

There has to be a rational answer to that question. You have not provided any. Every answer you claim does not fit reality. And all you're doing is parroting what flat earthers say.

Satellites in geostationary orbit over a globe earth is the only answer which fits the reality of the signals. The conclusion is therefore that, short of a rational answer from flat earthers, the earth is a globe.

 

[Apple Sky]

So where do the signals come from?

Well they certainly don't come from orbiting satellites.

 

[Phil G]

Well they certainly don't come from orbiting satellites.

Then where do they come from? That's what I've been asking. There's no point in saying they don't come from orbiting satellites if you can't give a rational alternative that fits reality. So far you haven't even come close.

 

[Apple Sky]

Then where do they come from? That's what I've been asking. There's no point in saying they don't come from orbiting satellites if you can't give a rational alternative that fits reality. So far you haven't even come close.

I've told you but you just refuse to believe.

 

[Phil G]

I've told you but you just refuse to believe.

It's not about belief but facts that fit reality. If you believe something that's not true, it's still not true.

If someone says satellite tv signals come from aerial masts, that's not true. It doesn't matter if you believe it or not, it isn't true. Satellite receiver dishes are not aligned towards aerial masts. And that is very provable.

The same goes for your other answers. They do not fit the facts therefore they are not to be believed.

To believe them when they contradict reality is sheer folly.

 

[Strong in Him]

With the earth tuning & moving through space at a exorbitant speed, I cant see how orbiting satellites are reliable either.

"I can't see ...."
Yes, that sums up your whole position.
You can't see how the earth could turn and we don't all fall off.
You can't see how we get heat from a sun that is 93,000,000 miles away.
You can't see how satellites could orbit in space.
You can't see how the moon could be so far away when it looks much closer.
Etc.
Because you can't see these things/understand that they are possible, then as far as you're concerned, they don't happen. And when people say "they do; Google/research it", your answer is, "what, so that they can tell more lies? No thanks."

It has been said to you many times; the facts don't change/go away because you "can't see" or don't understand them.

 

[Strong in Him]

I've told you but you just refuse to believe.

You mean that he refuses to accept your explanation.
Phil G has experience of the subject so he therefore knows; you don't so you can only "believe" or "reckon".

 

[Phil G]

You mean that he refuses to accept your explanation.
Phil G has experience of the subject so he therefore knows; you don't so you can only "believe" or "reckon".

All I'm looking for is an alternative explanation that I can test against my own experience and knowledge to see if it makes sense. But for some reason, she can't understand what it is I'm looking for. She just keeps indicating that it's a matter of belief, which it isn't.

 

[Apple Sky]

You can't see how we get heat from a sun that is 93,000,000 miles away.

No I can't, so the sun is 93 million miles away this is just plain folly.

You can't see how the earth could turn and we don't all fall off.

I said, 'why does water always find it's own level' ?

You can't see how satellites could orbit in space.

No I can't & for good reason.

It has been said to you many times; the facts don't change/go away because you "can't see" or don't understand them.

The world you think you live in is a fairy tale world.
What world do you live in ?
Facts have changed especially in my world. Amen

 

[Apple Sky]

Phil G has experience of the subject so he therefore knows; you don't so you can only "believe" or "reckon".

What does Phil know about orbiting satellites ? Please tell.

 

[Phil G]

What does Phil know about orbiting satellites ? Please tell.

Again, it's not about whether satellites exist or not. It's about where do the satellite signals come from?

I've asked this numerous times now and all you do is parrot flat earth answers that make no sense and indicate that I should believe them.

Well electronic equipment does not work according to belief. It works by design. It does what it is designed to do. And satellite tv equipment is designed to receive signals from the sky via a dish aligned to very specific points in the sky.

Where are those signals originating from? That's the question you can't answer. And it should be a very easy question to answer, because the equipment designed to transmit those signals should be easily visible if the earth is flat.

 

[Strong in Him]

No I can't, so the sun is 93 million miles away this is just plain folly.

No, it's a fact that you just can't "see"/understand. That's how it is.
If you were taking an exam, one of the questions was "how far away is the sun?" and you wrote "3,000 miles" it would be marked wrong.
If you were taking part in a quiz and a tie-breaker question to win the cup was "how far away is the sun?"; if you gave your answer, you'd lose.
If you had a child who said, "mum, how far away is the sun?" you said "3,000 miles" and your child repeated that to their mates at school - guarantee they'd be laughed at.

Why don't you take the trouble to find out HOW it is a fact, rather than just saying "it can't be"?

I said, 'why does water always find it's own level' ?

?? We weren't talking about water.

No I can't & for good reason.

The "good reason" is that you refuse to accept them.
That's not at all the same as saying that they're not there.

The world you think you live in is a fairy tale world.
What world do you live in ?

The world that God made - how about you?

Facts have changed especially in my world.

The only facts that have changed recently in your world is that you no longer believe Charles Duke; in fact you think he is a liar.
A few months ago you said "sorry" to God for doubting the astronauts and said that believing in a globe earth would be hard but that "with God's help, I'll get there".
You have since completely changed your mind about that and, apparently, now don't need God's help because "yaaay! I'm back on track." Once again you are saying that the astronauts are liars and that the earth is flat.

 

[Apple Sky]

Why don't you take the trouble to find out HOW it is a fact, rather than just saying "it can't be"?

Because it's not a fact it is a made up story.

The "good reason" is that you refuse to accept them.

Yes I do as orbiting satellites are not up there.

Facts have changed in my world & for the better, I see things now as clear as day.

 

[Apple Sky]

Again, it's not about whether satellites exist or not. It's about where do the satellite signals come from?

And I have told you, what do you want me to say, that they are magically conjured up.

 

[Phil G]

And I have told you, what do you want me to say, that they are magically conjured up.

No you haven’t told me. You’ve parroted out things without understanding what you are saying. If you had even the slightest knowledge about satellite tv, you would know what you say is nonsense.

And I’ve explained to you over and over as to why it’s nonsense.

Where do the satellite tv signals come from?

If you can’t answer that in a rational way, you have been deceived by your flat earth clowns.

 

[Strong in Him]

Because it's not a fact it is a made up story.

Yes, of course. Scientists, teachers reference books etc etc all made up the same fact.
Hundreds of people over the years all made up the distance the sun is from the earth, all all came up with the same figure.

Yes I do as orbiting satellites are not up there.

So where do satellite dishes get their signals from?

Look at the image that you posted on post #831, on page 42 of this forum. Those are satellite dishes. You even said you have some of them on the mountain near where you live.
What is a satellite dish?

A satellite dish is an antenna type commonly used to receive TV broadcasts, satellite signals, and internet signals. Satellite dishes play an essential role in our TV viewing experience. By focusing satellite signals, satellite dishes enhance signal quality. They are used for various purposes, and in this article, we will cover what satellite dishes are, how they work, their types, and installation steps in detail.

Where are those dishes pointing? At each other? At the ground? Or at the sky?

Using the logic that you say you possess, isn't it likely that satellite dishes would be pointing in the direction where there are able to receive satellite signals?
What is there in the sky that could send satellite signals? The moon? The stars? The sun? Rainbows, birds, butterflies or aeroplanes?
How about a satellite?

If satellite signals were being received from some underground cable, isn't it likely that the dishes would be pointed towards the ground? If that were the case, wouldn't the dishes be ON the ground instead of being mounted on the sides of houses and tall buildings?

 

[Phil G]

What is there in the sky that could send satellite signals? The moon? The stars? The sun? Rainbows, birds, butterflies or aeroplanes?

Fairies

 

[Apple Sky]

If satellite signals were being received from some underground cable, isn't it likely that the dishes would be pointed towards the ground?

Ever heard of cable TV ?

Yes, of course. Scientists, teachers reference books etc etc all made up the same fact.

Yes - Don't forget these fairy tales have been going on for near on 500 years now, ever since Copernicus & Newton.

 

[Phil G]

Ever heard of cable TV ?

There is no cable supplying the signals. Otherwise there would be no need for satellite dishes aligned to the sky.

Another stupid irrational answer from Apple Sky

@Apple Sky you are still regurgitating nonsensical answers from flat earth clowns. Try to think for yourself and see how far you have been led astray.

Can you not understand that cable tv is not satellite tv?