Furious Democrats Call for Schumer to Be Replaced After Shutdown Cave

[Say it aint so]

ah, the nazi card - been a while since that has been pulled out.

Who here believes bipartisanship (Democrats working with Republicans), is similar to the nazi's - good grief!

There are people who are going to lose their healthcare.
There are people who healthcare costs will increase drastically.
There are hospitals that will have to close.
What is the Trump/GOP plan other than let them eat cake, we have ballroom events to attend?
I mean seriously. You know it's problem. They know it's a problem. They control all of government. What's the plan?

 

[Desk trauma]

What's the plan?

There wasn’t one the first term, there’s not going to be one this time.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

ah, the nazi card - been a while since that has been pulled out.

Who here believes bipartisanship (Democrats working with Republicans), is similar to the nazi's - good grief!

The nazi card is played all the time unless that was sarcasm.

The Democrats should have been working with the Republicans from the beginning and not tiny groups of them doing back door deals.

 

[A2SG]

The Heritage Foundation criticizes the Affordable Care Act (ACA) for increasing health insurance premiums, limiting choices, and making insurance more expensive, particularly in the individual market. They argue that the law's regulations and mandates have caused sticker shock and pushed more Americans onto government-run health programs. Additionally, the Heritage Foundation contends that the ACA restricts market competition by preventing insurance sales across state lines and limiting options like health savings accounts.

Specific criticisms include:

• Increased costs: The Foundation claims that ACA regulations led to a significant increase in average monthly premiums, which more than doubled in many states between 2013 and 2019.
• • Reduced choice: The ACA is criticized for limiting health plan options and restricting physician networks, despite the creation of insurance exchanges.
  • Government expansion: The Heritage Foundation argues that the ACA has made more Americans dependent on government-run health programs.
  • Stifled competition: The law is seen as preventing the free market from lowering costs through measures like selling insurance across state lines, which is a restriction they say the ACA did not allow.
  • Flawed design: The Foundation believes the ACA's problems are due to its fundamental design, including excessive subsidies, mandates, and rating rules that increase costs. - Google

Yup, and I agree with a lot of that. I wasn't particularly happy when Mitt Romney implemented a similar plan here in Massachusetts, though there were differences that I did think were good ideas. On the whole, I've always favored a single payer plan over one that relies, in fact depends, on private health insurance.

One wonders if the Heritage Foundation had such problems with the plan, why did they suggest it in the first place (including the mandate, by the way), and why did the GOP champion it before President Obama and democrats decided to use it?

But, I will grant that the ACA was an improvement over what was in place before, specifically regarding regulations like insurers not being able to just cancel insurance policies once the health care needs of the insured were too expensive, and denying coverage due to preexisting conditions. I saw it as a start, something to build on. Instead, comprehensive improvements never came and, despite GOP attempts to repeal it, no plan has been proposed to replace it. Certainly nothing from the Republican side of the aisle. So we're stuck with it. We can either work to improve it (not hamper it), or we can scrap it, and go with a single payer plan, which would be much more comprehensive and more cost effective.

-- A2SG, not taking bets on the direction we'll wind up going in....

 

[A2SG]

I'm not talking about the handful of want to be Republican Senators, no, I am referring to the 6,265,888 people who couldn't remember they voted against Trump in 2020. I guess that episode of Matlock or Dancing with the Stars was just too important for them. They deserve everything that their lack of civic duty gives us.

Come on, be fair. The new Matlock show with Kathy Bates is pretty good.

-- A2SG, can't speak to DWTS though.....

 

[eclipsenow]

The shutdown was because Republicans don't think people need to .... eat.

 

[MarkSB]

If I were of a conspiratorial bent I might apprehend the GOP engineering the American population to be short lived, under educated but hard working.

It certainly seems that way. All the more likely to drink the Kool Aid.

But the next generation will be free of autism.... now that pregnant mothers know not to take Tylenol. So there's that.

 

[Larniavc]

now that pregnant mothers know not to take Tylenol.

Like when they stopped taking MMR? Like when vaccines were made without thimerosal? Do you have any other non-evidenced harm causing anti-science hypothesis’ you would like to promote?

Breatherianism for example?

 

[Fantine]

Democratic unity fractures, paving the way for the government to reopen​

Enough Democrats caved.​

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A Sunday night Senate deal may be on the verge of resolving the longest government shutdown on record — after a group of moderate Democrats dropped their key demand — a guaranteed extension of Obamacare subsidies.​

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The agreement opened the way for a Senate vote in which eight Democratic defectors voted to break the filibuster and to clear the first hurdle to reopening the government after nearly six weeks. Their move will offer relief to millions of Americans whose lives have been severely disrupted by the shutdown.​

If tax credits are not extended for the ACA, these turncoats will have to walk the walk of shame--along with 53 Republicans--for betraying their constituents.
Schumer will lose to AOC in the next primary.

 

[Always in His Presence]

If tax credits are not extended for the ACA, these turncoats will have to walk the walk of shame--along with 53 Republicans--for betraying their constituents.

turncoats? That is terminology that authoritarian governments use against those that do not walk in lock step with dear leaders...

What happened to bipartisan legislation?

FYI - the subsidies don't go to their constituents, but directly to the insurance companies who are making greater profit margins than ever.

Schumer will lose to AOC in the next primary.

Of course he will. The Party has spoken - they kill their wounded. (Politically speaking) Just like removing a sitting President from his re election ballot against his will. Democracy in action? I think not.

Best thing that could happen to America is an AOC/Sanders ticket for President - pretty much guarantee Republican leadership for the next eight years. With all my heart - I hope she runs.