He’s a citizen with a Real ID. ICE detained him anyway. Twice.

[FreeinChrist]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/11/10/ice-construction-worker-real-id-detained/

Garcia is Latino and works in construction. Twice since May, masked federal agents have gone onto private sites where he was working and detained him along with every other Latino worker — and only the Latino workers. Both times, officers ignored clear signs that they were intruding on private property without a warrant. Both times, Garcia told the officers that he was an American citizen and showed them his Real ID. Both times, the officers detained him anyway because, they said, they couldn’t be sure his Real ID was real.​

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After video of the first arrest went viral, the Department of Homeland Security claimed that officers arrested Garcia for obstruction because he “physically got in between agents and the subject they were attempting to arrest and refused to comply with numerous verbal commands.” Garcia’s first-person video of the incident shows that is not true. He was about 25 feet away from where law enforcement was detaining someone when an officer tackled him without giving any verbal commands — let alone asking any questions. Garcia was kept in handcuffs for an hour after showing evidence of citizenship. Once officers confirmed he was a citizen, they released him. .......​

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Garcia’s experience shows how these raids are unconstitutional. For starters, construction sites are closed to the public, often fenced off and posted with “No Trespassing” signs. When the government wants to investigate on private property, it needs to get permission or a warrant.​

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And the right wonders why people complain about ICE. ICE has gone amok in the Trump administration. I believe Homan is making Stephen Miller's hateful dreams a reality.

 

[iluvatar5150]

And the right wonders why people complain about ICE. ICE has gone amok in the Trump administration. I believe Homan is making Stephen Miller's hateful dreams a reality.

It's amusing to me that the most famous things to come out of my alma mater and hometown in the last 30 years are, respectively, Tom Homan and Woodstock 99.

 

[Hentenza]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/11/10/ice-construction-worker-real-id-detained/

Garcia is Latino and works in construction. Twice since May, masked federal agents have gone onto private sites where he was working and detained him along with every other Latino worker — and only the Latino workers. Both times, officers ignored clear signs that they were intruding on private property without a warrant. Both times, Garcia told the officers that he was an American citizen and showed them his Real ID. Both times, the officers detained him anyway because, they said, they couldn’t be sure his Real ID was real.​

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After video of the first arrest went viral, the Department of Homeland Security claimed that officers arrested Garcia for obstruction because he “physically got in between agents and the subject they were attempting to arrest and refused to comply with numerous verbal commands.” Garcia’s first-person video of the incident shows that is not true. He was about 25 feet away from where law enforcement was detaining someone when an officer tackled him without giving any verbal commands — let alone asking any questions. Garcia was kept in handcuffs for an hour after showing evidence of citizenship. Once officers confirmed he was a citizen, they released him. .......​

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Garcia’s experience shows how these raids are unconstitutional. For starters, construction sites are closed to the public, often fenced off and posted with “No Trespassing” signs. When the government wants to investigate on private property, it needs to get permission or a warrant.​

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And the right wonders why people complain about ICE. ICE has gone amok in the Trump administration. I believe Homan is making Stephen Miller's hateful dreams a reality.

Pathetic. I was reading somewhere that ICE can be sued but not sure. This case certainly deserves to try. I bet a bunch of others would join him.

 

[durangodawood]

I heard that "looking Mexican" or similar is actually acceptable probable cause for apprehension in this regime.

Is that so?

 

[rambot]

I heard that "looking Mexican" or similar is actually acceptable probable cause for apprehension in this regime.

Is that so?

Not technically. They have to look mexican and do something illegal immigrants do like wait for a bus or go to home depot.

 

[rambot]

It's funny to read these Trump supporters say "Ice is doing a wonderful job competently and legally" when stories like this are all over the place.

Reddit definitely skews left but that doesn't mean the video evidence you can find all over there is all ai generated and there is some significant untruth in the videos they have posted.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Not technically. They have to look mexican and do something illegal immigrants do like wait for a bus or go to home depot.

Or go to work, go to school, go to the doctor, be at home, go shopping, go to a restaurant, and the most terrifying thing of all, speak Spanish in public with an accent.

 

[Nithavela]

You'd think he'd get the message and self-deport voluntarily.

 

[Perpetual Student]

Or go to work, go to school, go to the doctor, be at home, go shopping, go to a restaurant, and the most terrifying thing of all, speak Spanish in public with an accent.

Not technically. They have to look mexican and do something illegal immigrants do like wait for a bus or go to home depot.

Breathing?

 

[Belk]

Pathetic. I was reading somewhere that ICE can be sued but not sure. This case certainly deserves to try. I bet a bunch of others would join him.

Was looking at info on this. Currently there is no real viable route to sue ICE. 1983 claims are only on the state level and SCOTUS eviscerated the federal ruling of Blevins so it can only be used in very rare cases. Not heard of any other way to go about it.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I heard that "looking Mexican" or similar is actually acceptable probable cause for apprehension in this regime.

Is that so?

Matching a visual description of someone they're looking for has always been "a thing" with regards to detaining and questioning (specifically with regards to law enforcement)

For instance, if officers were looking for a "6 foot 2 Caucasian male, roughly 180-200 pounds, wearing a blue hoodie was in the park dealing drugs and was believed to be armed"...

If I happen to be standing in the park the next day with my blue hoodie on and my hand in my pockets...I'd be getting detained for questioning & searched (possibly even tackled or ordered to get on the ground at gunpoint)

 

[durangodawood]

Matching a visual description of someone they're looking for has always been "a thing" with regards to detaining and questioning (specifically with regards to law enforcement)

For instance, if officers were looking for a "6 foot 2 Caucasian male, roughly 180-200 pounds, wearing a blue hoodie was in the park dealing drugs and was believed to be armed"...

If I happen to be standing in the park the next day with my blue hoodie on and my hand in my pockets...I'd be getting detained for questioning & searched (possibly even tackled or ordered to get on the ground at gunpoint)

Yeah as part of a more detailed description of a specific person.

 

[BNR32FAN]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/11/10/ice-construction-worker-real-id-detained/

Garcia is Latino and works in construction. Twice since May, masked federal agents have gone onto private sites where he was working and detained him along with every other Latino worker — and only the Latino workers. Both times, officers ignored clear signs that they were intruding on private property without a warrant. Both times, Garcia told the officers that he was an American citizen and showed them his Real ID. Both times, the officers detained him anyway because, they said, they couldn’t be sure his Real ID was real.​

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After video of the first arrest went viral, the Department of Homeland Security claimed that officers arrested Garcia for obstruction because he “physically got in between agents and the subject they were attempting to arrest and refused to comply with numerous verbal commands.” Garcia’s first-person video of the incident shows that is not true. He was about 25 feet away from where law enforcement was detaining someone when an officer tackled him without giving any verbal commands — let alone asking any questions. Garcia was kept in handcuffs for an hour after showing evidence of citizenship. Once officers confirmed he was a citizen, they released him. .......​

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Garcia’s experience shows how these raids are unconstitutional. For starters, construction sites are closed to the public, often fenced off and posted with “No Trespassing” signs. When the government wants to investigate on private property, it needs to get permission or a warrant.​

​

And the right wonders why people complain about ICE. ICE has gone amok in the Trump administration. I believe Homan is making Stephen Miller's hateful dreams a reality.

In the first video you posted he was resisting arrest. In the second video you posted he told the officer don’t touch me and tried to push the officer away with his left arm which is again resisting arrest. Not only that, the video starts with something already being said that wasn’t caught in the video. The first thing you hear the officer say is “alright but you’re making this harder than we want to”. So it’s pretty obvious that there was more to the conversation than what is being shown in the second video. He shouldn’t have been trying to walk away from the officer in the first place.

 

[Nithavela]

In the first video you posted he was resisting arrest. In the second video you posted he told the officer don’t touch me and tried to push the officer away with his left arm which is again resisting arrest. Not only that the video starts with something already being said that wasn’t caught in the video. The first thing you hear the officer say is “alright but you’re making this harder than we want to”. So it’s pretty obvious that there was more to the conversation than what is being shown in the second video. He shouldn’t have been trying to walk away from the officer in the first place.

Arrested for resisting arrest. Classic.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Arrested for resisting arrest. Classic.

So if an officer wants to detain a citizen for questioning they’re not allowed to because they’re a citizen? I’ll tell you what I don’t see in both of the videos. I don’t see the guy cooperating with the officers like a reasonable person. Where’s that part of the video?

 

[Hentenza]

Was looking at info on this. Currently there is no real viable route to sue ICE. 1983 claims are only on the state level and SCOTUS eviscerated the federal ruling of Blevins so it can only be used in very rare cases. Not heard of any other way to go about it.

Thanks for the info. I am Latino but I don’t look it so I feel for the more ethnic looking Latinos out there that are going to be harassed simply for their looks. That should be unconstitutional.

 

[wing2000]

So if an officer wants to detain a citizen for questioning they’re not allowed to because they’re a citizen?

What do you think? If a police officer detains you based on your appearance, would you be cool with that?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Yeah as part of a more detailed description of a specific person.

There are other instances where "locational proximity to a crime" is factored in as well.

For instance, if there was a basement of a store being used for for illegal gambling and authorities got a tip about it and decided to raid it...

If I happen to be hanging out in that basement and watching but not actually playing or participating in the gambling, I would assume I'd be getting detained temporarily and asked a few questions.

 

[Nithavela]

What do you think? If a police officer detains you based on your appearance, would you be cool with that?

I think the appropriate response in the USA is to do whatever the law enforcement officer tells you to do, then wait for the internal investigation to clear him, then go through a lengthy and costly litigation process.

Land of the free!

 

[Hentenza]

Matching a visual description of someone they're looking for has always been "a thing" with regards to detaining and questioning (specifically with regards to law enforcement)

For instance, if officers were looking for a "6 foot 2 Caucasian male, roughly 180-200 pounds, wearing a blue hoodie was in the park dealing drugs and was believed to be armed"...

If I happen to be standing in the park the next day with my blue hoodie on and my hand in my pockets...I'd be getting detained for questioning & searched (possibly even tackled or ordered to get on the ground at gunpoint)

Unfortunately that is not what is happening here. Not too many 6’2” caucasians being stopped for suspicion of being in the country illegally. But anyone that “looks” Latino or those that are speaking Spanish are fair game. Hardly a comparison.