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[Strong in Him]

I think 'strong in him' mean't satellite dishes, as nope, I have never seen a satellite in the sky.

Yes, you're right; I did.
But just because you have never seen a satellite, that doesn't mean they don't exist.

In the same way, just because the sun doesn't look as though it's 93,000,000 miles away, it doesn't mean that it isn't.

 

[Apple Sky]

In the same way, just because the sun doesn't look as though it's 93,000,000 miles away, it doesn't mean that it isn't.

Never never never is the sun 93 million miles away, this is something I will never except, no not ever.
For the sun to be this far away we'd never receive heat like we do & BTW the sun is not this fiery ball that the earth orbits, the sun circuits the sky.

I'll give you a clue - Who stopped the sun ?

 

[Apple Sky]

Some satellites are, but by no means all. The fact that you have posted one picture of some white cloth attached to a satellite, doesn't prove that all satellites are attached to balloons.

Well prove to me they are not.

 

[Phil G]

Well prove to me they are not.

That’s easy. How can the satellite tv signals come from a balloon when the satellite dish is fixed? And the satellite dish doesn’t point towards a mast. Nor does the signal come from underground cables.

Explain your nonsensical reasoning.

 

[Phil G]

Never never never is the sun 93 million miles away, this is something I will never except, no not ever.
For the sun to be this far away we'd never receive heat like we do & BTW the sun is not this fiery ball that the earth orbits, the sun circuits the sky.

I'll give you a clue - Who stopped the sun ?

The fact that you will never accept the sun being 93 million miles away is a sign of an indoctrinated mind.

And now you’re heading back to Scripture, which you said you wouldn’t. But I’ll give you a clue to your question. Phenomenological language.

 

[Strong in Him]

Never never never is the sun 93 million miles away, this is something I will never except, no not ever.

What you accept makes no difference at all to the facts.
Facts don't change just because you won't accept them

For the sun to be this far away we'd never receive heat like we do

But we do - get over it.

No, I can't explain it to you, I'm not a scientist, but there are plenty who can. Yet all you do when presented with such facts is to laugh hysterically.
You can't see that the only person who looks ridiculous, is you.

You also said a few posts back that this is what NASA does - i.e lie to people.
You do realise that the sun was 93,000,000 miles away from the earth even before the USA, never mind NASA, was even discovered? In your hatred for NASA you're overlooking the obvious.

 

[Apple Sky]

That’s easy. How can the satellite tv signals come from a balloon when the satellite dish is fixed? And the satellite dish doesn’t point towards a mast. Nor does the signal come from underground cables.

Okay then prove to me that satellites orbit space.

 

[Phil G]

Okay then prove to me that satellites orbit space.

Give me an alternative explanation as to how satellite tv signals are received, proving they don’t.

Satellites in geostationary orbits is a well established fact. And there is no alternative rational explanation for satellite tv signals. If you say otherwise, it is up to you to prove it.

 

[Apple Sky]

And now you’re heading back to Scripture, which you said you wouldn’t. But I’ll give you a clue to your question. Phenomenological language.

How can someone not see the sun stop ?

I'll give you a clue - Time.

 

[Apple Sky]

Give me an alternative explanation as to how satellite tv signals are received, proving they don’t.

Satellites in geostationary orbits is a well established fact. And there is no alternative rational explanation for satellite tv signals. If you say otherwise, it is up to you to prove it.

Can't prove it - Thought not.

 

[Phil G]

How can someone not see the sun stop ?

I'll give you a clue - Time.

Do you deny God is creator and master of His creation? I’ll give you a clue, He can do anything He wants with it.

 

[Phil G]

Can't prove it - Thought not.

Just did. You can’t explain satellite tv signals any other way.

 

[Apple Sky]

Do you deny God is creator and master of His creation cr? I’ll give you a clue, He can do anything He wants with it.

I agree, this is why he could stop the stop the sun & the moon from circuiting the sky.

 

[Phil G]

I agree, this is why he could stop the stop the sun & the moon from circuiting the sky.

Correction, He stopped the sun as it appears to circuit the sky.

The sun doesn’t circuit the sky the way flat earthers claim. If it did, it would get bigger and faster as it nears the observer and get smaller and slower as it moves away, just as anything else does.

But that’s not what is observed. It maintains its speed and angular size throughout. And sets below the horizon. This has been explained to you multiple times, but as ever, you don’t seem to be able to get your head around simple facts.

 

[Apple Sky]

Correction, He stopped the sun as it appears to circuit the sky.

I think you'll find that God stopped the sun & the moon in their tracks.

 

[Phil G]

I think you'll find that God stopped the sun & the moon in their tracks.

They’re not on tracks

But He stopped them as they appear in the sky. Proof that they do not themselves circuit the sky and that it is the globe earth’s rotation which causes their apparent movement is the fact of sunsets and moon sets, which would not happen if the earth was flat and stationary with the sun and moon actually circuiting the sky.

 

[Phil G]

But this is what happens, the sun & the moon plus the stars circuits the sky, we see this happening day after day, but what puzzles me is how does God do it, to move them all around on a stationary earth ?

This is one of the big questions I have asked God & I think he has answered me, he does it via the North.

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No, you’re not paying attention to the facts which are easily observed. If the sun & moon circle over the earth & are only about 3500 miles up, then these things would happen and be easily observed:

1. The sun & moon would appear to speed up and slow down as they approach and move away from the observer. This does not happen. Their apparent speeds are constant.

2. The sun & moon angular size would increase and decrease as they move toward and away from the observer. This does not happen. Their angular size remains constant.

3. The sun & moon would reduce in size and never set as they move further from the observer. This does not happen. They slowly drop below the horizon.

4. The sun & moon would appear as tiny points of light as they “rise” gradually getting bigger. This does not happen. They rise from below the horizon and are never seen as tiny points of light.

I’ve challenged you before and will do so again now to watch the moon setting & then try to zoom it back into view again. You will not be able to, I absolutely guarantee it!

God has already given you your answer through easily observed facts. He doesn’t move them all around on a flat stationary earth, the earth is not flat or stationary. That’s your answer!

 

[Apple Sky]

You can’t explain satellite tv signals any other way.

Yes one can. Impossible for many reasons outlined in the following video.

Satellite Hoax​

 

[prodromos]

Yes one can. Impossible for many reasons outlined in the following video.

Satellite Hoax​

Back to the anti-christian Eric "the idiot" Dubay.

 

[David Lamb]

Well prove to me they are not.

I don't know how I could prove it in a way that you would accept. I could give the results of my Google images search for "satellites", literally hundreds of pictures and not a balloon in sight. I could repeat what others have said here about balloons being subject to winds, and thus of no use where a satellite needs to be stationary in respect of the earth. I doubt you would accept such evidence. For example, you try to insist that satellite television signals do not come from satellites, (and that in spite of domestic satellite dishes pointing to the sky), but through cables or even, you said once, by post. What proof would you accept?

Incidentally, I think I may have come across what your picture might have been, which you said was a satellite attached to a balloon. (I may be completely wrong as I am not an expert on these t9hings.):

"High-altitude balloons (HABs) or stratostats are usually uncrewed balloons typically filled with helium or hydrogen and released into the stratosphere, generally attaining between 18 and 37 km (11 and 23 mi; 59,000 and 121,000 ft) above sea level. In 2013, a balloon named BS 13-08 reached a record altitude of 53.7 km (33.4 mi; 176,000 ft).[1]

The most common type of high-altitude balloons are weather balloons. Other purposes include use as a platform for experiments in the upper atmosphere. Modern balloons generally contain electronic equipment such as radio transmitters, cameras, or satellite navigation systems, such as GPS receivers. Hobbyists frequently purchase weather balloons because of their ease of use, low price point, and widespread commoditisation.

These balloons are launched into what is defined as "near space", defined as the area of Earth's atmosphere between the Armstrong limit (18–19 km (11–12 mi) above sea level), where pressure falls to the point that a human being cannot survive without a pressurised suit, and the Kármán line (100 km (62 mi) above sea level[2]), where astrodynamics must take over from aerodynamics in order to maintain flight."