The Schumer Shutdown

[mark46]

They want to negotiate . It is the American way, or used to be.

Why bother with elections if it doesn't matter if you have a majority?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Why bother with elections if it doesn't matter if you have a majority?

Having the majority doesn’t mean they have the votes to pass their agenda. That’s where compromise comes in.

 

[mark46]

Having the majority doesn’t mean they have the votes to pass their agenda. That’s where compromise comes in.

In every other democracy, a majority is sufficient to pass a budget. Giving the majority the power to pass legislation with a majority vote is the very point of having elections.

I do understand that the US has distinctives among the world's developed democracies.
1) no health care guarantees for all citizens
2) less robust support for the poor
3) Budgets can be stopped by a 42% of the Senate.
4) The debt limit allows 42% of the Senate to force the US into bankruptcy by having us not pay our bonds by refusing to raise the debt limit.

 

[Aldebaran]

Are you kidding? Republicans are so lock step all he has to do is say the word.

He's already been saying the words, "Vote to pass the CR and open the government"! The Republicans have all done that. So now it's up to just a handful of democrats to do the same. But the just can't seem to do it.

 

[Aldebaran]

It is not about “political leverage”. It is about healthcare for those who most need it.

But Obama already took care of that, remember? It was called the "Affordable Health" plan. Democrats all voted for it too, so we're all set with healthcare--and it's affordable too!
But continue manufacturing problems that don't exist as an excuse for voting to keep federal workers unpaid, and the poor unfed. For political leverage.

 

[Aldebaran]

Answer my question first and then I will be more than happy to opine.

Your answer has already been clear. I don't need to see it.

 

[Sportsballfan]

 

[7thKeeper]

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[Sportsballfan]

 

[7thKeeper]

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Well yes, I can understand if that is your reaction. But come on, your post was just a screenshot from Reddit with a bunch of conspiracy nonsense and lies in it.

 

[Servus]

Senator John Kennedy explains why Schumer's proposals will not work:

 

[Sportsballfan]

Well yes, I can understand if that is your reaction.

So was that post of yours resembling yours?

But come on, your post was just a screenshot from Reddit with a bunch of conspiracy nonsense and lies in it.

It’s not nonsense, everyone sees what the Democrats are doing, even the democrat voters know.

 

[Always in His Presence]

But Obama already took care of that, remember? It was called the "Affordable Health" plan. Democrats all voted for it too, so we're all set with healthcare--and it's affordable too!
But continue manufacturing problems that don't exist as an excuse for voting to keep federal workers unpaid, and the poor unfed. For political leverage.

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Some have not forgotten

 

[Nithavela]

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Senate Majority Leader John Thune quickly swatted down a Democratic offer to reopen the government and extend expiring health care subsidies for a year, calling it a “nonstarter” as the partisan impasse over the shutdown continued into its 38th day.

Republicans swat down Democratic offer to end shutdown as impasse continues into 38th day

Republicans are swatting down an offer from Democrats to end the government shutdown. Senate Majority Leader John Thune says the new offer from Democrats is a “non-starter.” The proposal from Democrats would reopen the government and include a one-year extension of expiring health care...

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[Aldebaran]

Senate Majority Leader John Thune quickly swatted down a Democratic offer to reopen the government and extend expiring health care subsidies for a year, calling it a “nonstarter” as the partisan impasse over the shutdown continued into its 38th day.

Republicans swat down Democratic offer to end shutdown as impasse continues into 38th day

Republicans are swatting down an offer from Democrats to end the government shutdown. Senate Majority Leader John Thune says the new offer from Democrats is a “non-starter.” The proposal from Democrats would reopen the government and include a one-year extension of expiring health care...

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As long as the Democrats in the Senate keep voting NO to funding the entire federal government just because there's one issue they have a beef with, anything they propose should be a nonstarter. Let them take their ball and go home until they're ready to do their job again.

 

[rambot]

But Obama already took care of that, remember? It was called the "Affordable Health" plan. Democrats all voted for it too, so we're all set with healthcare--and it's affordable too!

But continue manufacturing problems that don't exist

That depends on how little attention you are paying I suppose.

as an excuse for voting to keep federal workers unpaid, and the poor unfed. For political leverage.

Political leverage is one thing.

Why is Trump trying to stop poor people from getting food NOW? IS it just cause he's a mysanthrope or is this another way that democrats are eville

 

[Always in His Presence]

These are the Senate Democrats who voted to reopen the government

After reaching a bipartisan deal, Senate Democrats finally gave Republicans the votes needed to advance a government funding measure.

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Looks like there are brave Democrats who know it is time to open the government - here are their names.

Washington — Seven Democratic senators and one independent who caucuses with Democrats voted late Sunday to reopen the government and end the shutdown.​

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Three of them have consistently voted for Republicans' short-term funding patch — which passed the House in mid-September — to keep the government funded until Nov. 21 at current levels. The measure narrowly advanced in the Senate after it secured the support of five more Democrats with the expectation that it will be amended to extend funding until Jan. 30.​

 

[mark46]

These are the Senate Democrats who voted to reopen the government

After reaching a bipartisan deal, Senate Democrats finally gave Republicans the votes needed to advance a government funding measure.

www.cbsnews.com

Looks like there are brave Democrats who know it is time to open the government - here are their names.

Washington — Seven Democratic senators and one independent who caucuses with Democrats voted late Sunday to reopen the government and end the shutdown.​

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Three of them have consistently voted for Republicans' short-term funding patch — which passed the House in mid-September — to keep the government funded until Nov. 21 at current levels. The measure narrowly advanced in the Senate after it secured the support of five more Democrats with the expectation that it will be amended to extend funding until Jan. 30.​

the key for them is that none is running for re-election in 2026.