What are you listening to?

[Michie]

 

[Michie]

 

[Michie]

 

[Michie]

 

[Sif]

 

[partinobodycular]

Sometimes AI gives me just a glimmer of what it can be, and the future doesn't look quite so dark.

 

[Chesterton]

Sometimes AI gives me just a glimmer of what it can be, and the future doesn't look quite so dark.

It's a very nice song, but as for the video, if you're a guitar player and you watch his hands and fingers, it's laughable.

 

[partinobodycular]

It's a very nice song, but as for the video, if you're a guitar player and you watch his hands and fingers, it's laughable.

Very true, but give AI a year, or five years, or twenty. I've been waiting for a music sharing service that could actually figure out what I like since Napster. Every attempt has been laughable. Finally there's hope that AI will actually play songs that I like.

 

[Chesterton]

Very true, but give AI a year, or five years, or twenty.

I don't see any point to it, other than creative businesses saving a bunch of money by not having to pay humans. There's no benefit to me.

I've been waiting for a music sharing service that could actually figure out what I like since Napster. Every attempt has been laughable. Finally there's hope that AI will actually play songs that I like.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. Why do you need a service to figure out what you like? Don't you just like what you like? Are you talking about finding new music that you haven't heard of yet?

 

[Chesterton]

 

[Chesterton]

 

[partinobodycular]

Are you talking about finding new music that you haven't heard of yet?

Exactly. Napster began with the promise that they could figure out the type of songs that you liked based upon the one's that you

Yeah, like that worked.

I think that it was iheartradio where I thumbed down over 10,000 songs and thumbed up less than 20. It got to the point where I didn't dare thumb something up because then I'd end up hearing every song that that artist ever recorded, along with anything that was even remotely similar.

AI at least gives me the hope that even if the songs don't currently exist, AI will make them for me, along with my own personal list of artists to perform them. Now that's a service I'd sign up for.

 

[Chesterton]

Exactly. Napster began with the promise that they could figure out the type of songs that you liked based upon the one's that you

Yeah, like that worked.

I think that it was iheartradio where I thumbed down over 10,000 songs and thumbed up less than 20. It got to the point where I didn't dare thumb something up because then I'd end up hearing every song that that artist ever recorded, along with anything that was even remotely similar.

AI at least gives me the hope that even if the songs don't currently exist, AI will make them for me, along with my own personal list of artists to perform them. Now that's a service I'd sign up for.

I guess we're a little different. I still listen to the old music I already like because I think new music is lame. One genre I like is country western from before the '80's. Couple months ago I was waiting in an office lobby and the secretaries had the radio on. After I'd heard about two and a half songs, the DJ announced "This is K___ (Kwhatever) and you're listening to the best in country music!" My jaw dropped. I couldn't believe that slick, banal lite pop music I had heard passes for country these days.

 

[Chesterton]

Yeah, like that worked.

I don't mean to ramble on about this too much, but I had a thought about why it might not work. If you really like a song or an artist, it's because you think it's exceptional, it's better than other things, and better than other things which are similar. So whatever artificial results you get back, they're going to fall short the vast majority of the time.

On a related note, if someone asks me if I like reggae, my answer is that I like good reggae. Ask me about opera, I like good opera. Same with punk or any genre. By definition, great things are rare. So if I search for something like a reggae song I really like, the probability is that I'll get a large majority of results which are not great.

 

[Chesterton]

Yeah, like that worked.

OK, remembered one other thing - a week ago I posted about the theme from the movie Jaws. I had asked Chat what other musical compositions sounded like it. It gave me four possibilities, which were all based on technical analysis, not listening (obviously). Three of the four sounded nothing at all like Jaws, but one of them was the right answer. So if we ask for something which sounds like something else, AI is using different criteria than we do.

 

[Robban]

I don't mean to ramble on about this too much, but I had a thought about why it might not work. If you really like a song or an artist, it's because you think it's exceptional, it's better than other things, and better than other things which are similar. So whatever artificial results you get back, they're going to fall short the vast majority of the time.

On a related note, if someone asks me if I like reggae, my answer is that I like good reggae. Ask me about opera, I like good opera. Same with punk or any genre. By definition, great things are rare. So if I search for something like a reggae song I really like, the probability is that I'll get a large majority of results which are not great.

Apart from Bob Marley, best, very best reggae is this one from U-Roy, in my opinion.

 

[Robban]

Otherwise Bob Marley and the wailers takes some beating.

 

[Chesterton]

Apart from Bob Marley, best, very best reggae is this one from U-Roy, in my opinion.

I'm sure you're familiar with this first one.

Interesting trivia about Israel Vibration - All three members were physically disabled due to childhood polio, but their getting together was not a gimmick to "sell" the band. They met and became friends as children in a polio treatment place. Also, one of them got kicked off of a wheelchair basketball team for becoming a Rastafarian.

Good catchy song, but I'm confused by that one line - "Until we find a way to leave the West". Is anybody trying to leave the West? Then later they moved from Jamaica to New York City, so at least they learned about boats and airplanes at some point. A partial happy ending, I guess.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

I like this kinds of threads, and since it is my first post in this thread I just put on Schism by Tool, a band I discovered through a person here at CF back in the early 2000s @Received (you don't seem to be around here anymore) So will have to differ in our views if knowledge have any intrinsic value or only intrumental value

 

[Chesterton]

I like this kinds of threads, and since it is my first post in this thread...

Welcome

I just put on Schism by Tool, a band I discovered through a person here at CF back in the early 2000s @Received (you don't seem to be around here anymore) So will have to differ in our views if knowledge have any intrinsic value or only intrumental value

I think I remember Received. Did he used to have an avatar with Bob Dylan in it?