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[prodromos]

I know this, but the sky cannot be made to resemble a molten looking glass can it ?

You fail to recognise and understand poetic language again.

 

[prodromos]

Polaris, like all stars, should be a blur at best, considering the insanely outrageous speeds of the supposedly planet Earth.

When travelling on a high speed train, objects that are close will be a blur, but objects in the distance, such as mountains, appear to move very slowly.
You once again prove that you have no understanding of how perspective works.

 

[Apple Sky]

When travelling on a high speed train, objects that are close will be a blur, but objects in the distance, such as mountains, appear to move very slowly.
You once again prove that you have no understanding of how perspective works.

What I don't understand is that if the earth is turning how come the constellations still remain the same night after night ?

 

[Hentenza]

No I haven't, I reckon we've exhausted the subject of molten glass which I'm never going to agree on, unless you want to carry on debating it, I don't mind.

Pretty sad after all evidence presented fully defeats what you believe. So at the end of the day you are going to believe what you believe whether you are right or wrong. You are the perfect candidate for false teachers and wolves in sheep clothing to pray on. I will continue to pray for you.

 

[Strong in Him]

What I don't understand is that if the earth is turning how come the constellations still remain the same night after night ?

The earth turns on its own axis - it doesn't roll around the sky.

 

[Hentenza]

What I don't understand is that if the earth is turning how come the constellations still remain the same night after night ?

They don’t actually. You can see the same stars and planets but in different parts of the sky.

 

[prodromos]

What I don't understand is that if the earth is turning how come the constellations still remain the same night after night ?

Same explanation, but this time the mountains are so far away that the distance covered by the speeding train is insignificant in comparison.

 

[Apple Sky]

The earth turns on its own axis - it doesn't roll around the sky.

I thought the earth is hurtling through space. Do all the stars move with it ?

The Earth is constantly moving through space as part of a complex system of motions at astonishing speeds. It is not stationary.

Psalms 104:5
He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.

 

[Apple Sky]

They don’t actually. You can see the same stars and planets but in different parts of the sky.

Do you think that this maybe due to the stars moving & not the earth ?

He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. Psalms 104:5

 

[Apple Sky]

You are the perfect candidate for false teachers and wolves in sheep clothing to pray on.

Why, because I don't agree with everyone here ?

 

[David Lamb]

The verse Job 38:14, is meant to give us the shape of the earth. Are you going to debate this also ?

Not at the moment. I am talking about Job 37:18, which you keep mentioning as support fro a solid firmament, despite that verse not even mentioning the word "firmament", or using the Hebrew word raqia.

 

[David Lamb]

For me, the proof of a solid firmament still lies within the verses Job 37:18 & Genesis 1:7.

Here you are still quoting Job 37:18 to prove that the firmament is solid. Don't you see that Job 37:18 does not even mention the firmament, or use the Hebrew word raqia? It is talking poetically about the sky. As for Genesis 1:7, that tells us that God divided the waters under the firmament from those above the firmament. It doesn't say that the waters above the firmament are touching the firmament and supported by it, any more than the waters under the firmament are touching the firmament.

 

[David Lamb]

No I haven't, I reckon we've exhausted the subject of molten glass which I'm never going to agree on, unless you want to carry on debating it, I don't mind.

But it is not the molten glass we have been discussing, but the fact that Job 37:18 does not even mention the firmament or raqia, so why do you keep quoting that verse to support the idea of a solid firmament?

 

[Strong in Him]

I thought the earth is hurtling through space. Do all the stars move with it ?

As far as I know, "hurtling through space" are, and have been, your words.

The earth rotates on its own axis, which takes 24 hours, and revolves around the sun, which takes a year.
It does not say, "oh look, here's a bit of the universe I haven't explored yet", and goes wandering off towards Saturn, Neptune or another milky way. It does not drift so far away from the sun that we all freeze, or so close to the sun that we all burn up.

You could even say that it is on a circuit, from which it doesn't deviate or move away. You could say that the reason it stays "on its course", or circuit, is because God is watching over, and ordering, it.
And maybe this is even what Isaiah said - thousands of years before anyone else discovered it.

 

[Apple Sky]

It doesn't say that the waters above the firmament are touching the firmament and supported by it,

In Psalms 148:4 it does mention the waters above the heavens.
King James Bible
Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens

any more than the waters under the firmament are touching the firmament.

Maybe the waters underneath i.e the oceans, are touching the firmament, maybe the firmament goes all around the earth like a bubble, you have just reminded me of thiese two videos where they discover warm saline underwater lakes.

Fascinating!

 

[Apple Sky]

The earth rotates on its own axis, which takes 24 hours, and revolves around the sun, which takes a year.

But the Bible states that earth is unmovable.

 

[David Lamb]

In Psalms 148:4 it does mention the waters above the heavens.
King James Bible
Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens

Yes, but like Genesis 1:7, Psalm 148:4 just says that the waters are above the heavens/firmament, not that the heavens or the firmament are supporting the waters.

Maybe the waters underneath i.e the oceans, are touching the firmament, maybe the firmament goes all around the earth like a bubble, you have just reminded me of thiese two videos where they discover warm saline underwater lakes.

Fascinating!

I watched the beginning of the first video, and it talks about an underwater lake showing things that you and I don't believe, "how life began on earth and possibly elsewhere." When the words "and possibly elsewhere" are being said, the video shows one of the planets. We know from Genesis how life began on earth. We don't need an underwater lake to tell us that. I am unsure what water under water has to do with waters above the firmament, though.

 

[Strong in Him]

But the Bible states that earth is unmovable.

The Bible is not a science textbook.
The earth cannot be moved by anyone, or anything, else. It cannot be moved from it's place in the Solar system - i.e further away from the sun than Mercury, or closer to it that Neptune.
That doesn't mean that the earth will never move. Otherwise there wouldn't be earthquakes, like there were in the days of Elijah, and before the resurrection. If there was an earthquake, the earth moved.
Psalm 60 also says that God has "shaken the land and torn it open". Another Psalm talks of the foundations of the earth being shaken.

 

[Hentenza]

Do you think that this maybe due to the stars moving & not the earth ?

He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. Psalms 104:5

The earth rotates around the Sun just as the moon rotates around the earth. The Psalmist is merely conveying that God established the earth on a sound foundation that will never be moved, reflecting His role as the creator who brings order to the world. The Psalms are poetry and contain many great teachings but they use imagery at times to accomplish this. This verse is a perfect example of imagery.

 

[Hentenza]

Why, because I don't agree with everyone here ?

Because you are getting fooled by lies from people that have been proven wrong time and time again.